Benjamin L. Corey

Benjamin L. Corey

BLC is an author, speaker, scholar, and global traveler, who holds graduate degrees in Theology & Intercultural Studies from Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, and received his doctorate in Intercultural Studies from Fuller. He is the author of Undiluted: Rediscovering the Radical Message of Jesus, and Unafraid: Moving Beyond Fear-Based Faith.

It’s Not Pro-Life If You’re Going to Sacrifice the Old Folks

Corona virus pro-life
Trump claims to be pro-life, but it's not pro-life to intentionally sacrifice Grandpa Jones for Dow Jones.

Each day seems more and more like a science fiction movie that few of us ever imagined actually experiencing, as we navigate a deadly and world-sweeping viral epidemic. Most Americans, regardless of state, are now in a shelter-in-place quarantine scenario of various degrees as we attempt to slow the spread of the COVID-19 virus.

How long will this crisis last? We truly don’t know– but by all accounts we do know that maximizing survival rates is critically dependent on continuing social distancing and shelter in place efforts across the country. It may not protect the economy, but it will undoubtedly save countless lives– especially the elderly and vulnerable.

And yet, even though disease control experts are united on what is necessary to save potentially thousands of lives, our “pro-life” president is breaking with the medical community and stating that he’d not only like to see America “reopen” in a few weeks, but that he wants to see “churches packed” on Easter.

(Side note- if the antichrist were to come and wanted to kill off Christians, telling them to go pack churches during an epidemic would be a great way to do it.)

Donald Trump was elected in large part because he convinced evangelicals to overlook 1001 reasons why a faithful Christian could never support him, and he did it by claiming to be “pro-life”. And throughout his presidency every— and I mean EVERY– time I’ve pointed out his grossly immoral character to Christian Trump supporters, I get the same response: “But, but, he’s pro-life…”

So for all the Christian Trump supporters out there who passionately defend their support on the grounds of being “pro-life,” let me break this down for you:

It’s not pro-life if we decide to let the old folks get killed off.

It’s not pro-life to protect the unborn but sacrifice the ones that were already born.

It is no secret that as a nation, we are being forced to pick between two crappy options– saving lives or saving parts of the economy. But for those who call themselves pro-life, there is no way around this one.

You cannot jump into a discussion on abortion and claim that “as a nation it is dangerous to decide who lives and who dies based on the convenience of the living,” as we were all taught to argue, but then turn around and decide the economic cost is too great and too inconvenient to justify protecting the lives of the elderly and others at high risk.

You cannot in one breath claim that Trump is a “pro-life” president who believes in protecting the sanctity of life, and in another breath support sacrificing the old folks.

I mean, c’mon. Even Franklin Graham gets this one:

Our nation is at a potential crossroad in the battle to contain COVID-19, and the path we choose has real lives in the balance. We face a choice of doing what is good for the economy, or doing what is right for the vulnerable… a choice between saving money or saving real lives.

For those who value human life above all else, there should be no question to be had on this one:

It’s not pro-life when someone is willing to sacrifice Grandpa Jones for Dow Jones.

Benjamin L. Corey

Benjamin L. Corey

BLC is an author, speaker, scholar, and global traveler, who holds graduate degrees in Theology & Intercultural Studies from Gordon-Conwell, and earned his doctorate in Intercultural Studies from Fuller.

He is the author of Unafraid: Moving Beyond Fear-Based Faith, and Undiluted: Rediscovering the Radical Message of Jesus.

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  1. In 2 days the US death rate has doubled.

    Remember when Trump said he had this under control and it would be zero. (btw South Korea had their first case the same time as the US except they took it seriously. Your leader wanted to play politics).

    Your faith in your fake messiah and his bs is leading the USA to disaster.

    Be safe. Stay indoors and only go out for essentials. Stay 6 feet apart and wash your hands. Stay away from older people if you can.

    My thoughts are with you guys who have to pay the consequences of a President who has failed his people and led them to death and disaster.

  2. Unbelievable that the US leader says its about harming his electoral chances. Yeah hundreds are dying everyday in Europe to stop Trump getting elected. Moron!

  3. CDC estimates that influenza has resulted in between 9 million – 45 million illnesses, between 140,000 – 810,000 hospitalizations and between 12,000 – 61,000 deaths annually since 2010.
    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html

    FACT: Churches were open, corporations and small bussinesses were open, movie theaters were open, restaurants were open etc. all the while Obama was president, but there was no shutdown. It’s amazing how the left are such hypocrites when it’s Trump. On second thought, it is not amazing because hypocricy with the left is always the case.

    1. The death rate as a percentage of the positives is the most telling. Today, 3/26, it is much higher than the normal flu – which is about 0.1%. Most of the Left do not understand math so this will go over their heads. The positives will rise dramatically with increased testing and so the Corona death rate percentage will drop. Only then will we know how Corona relates to the typical flu.

      For the more inquisitive conservatives among us we have
      Revelation 18:11. The merchants of the earth will weep and mourn over her because no one buys their cargoes anymore–.
      Question – who is Her. This is not difficult but I wait to be informed by the Leftists among us…

      1. You don’t understand maths.

        The flu doesn’t kill 800 people in a day. You’ve already reached your whole flu season.

        Maybe this is a way of God culling the idiots out of the world.

        It’s sad for those you have contact with and infect.

        Amazing that the world is imploding and you’re still screaming about Leftists.

        When you’re buried no one’s gonna give a shit about how right wing Bob was.

        And ‘her’ is Imperial Rome.

        1. Bones, you what is cool about the God of scripture? It’s that he lets idiots be idiots and then laughs….check out Psalm 2.

          1. Yes he’ll laugh as you struggle to breathe through your last gasp.

            How cool is your god.

            But at least you have your insurance policy.

            1. you know Bones, I am truly saddened that your mind is so closed to Biblical truth….MY God is “cool” beyond comprehension…so much so that even if I die gasping it’s ok cause that isn’t the end…it is only the beginning. I do wish you weren’t so blind to that reality
              Oh, and by the way I don’t have life insurance.

              1. I’m truly saddened that your mind is so closed to education…. Your god will laugh as you die from your own idiocy… According to you… And yes, it will be the end of you, Everitt, no matter how much your pie in the sky religion tells you otherwise.

    2. Fact: covid is not a normal flu.

      It’s killing up to 800 people a day in countries like Spain and Italy.

      I’m expecting an absolute disaster in the USA with the type of idiocy coming out of it.

      1. Sounds like you are rooting for a disaster in the USA. You should list all that free stuff you are getting under Socialism in your country, it might convince some Socialists on this site to leave this capitalist hell hole in your opinion.

        1. Lol…well covid will weed out the idiots.

          Which will be a fair chunk of the USA because its no different to the flu, Billy Bob.

          This virus actually attacks the lining of your lungs and alveoli.

          A shame you’re going to kill innocents as well.

          Btw I also get a covid payment and a parenting benefit to go with my next free flu shot.

          Probably why Trump says our health system is so much better than yours.

          1. IF it is so “covid will weed out the idiots” you had better get your say in quickly….you don’t have long.

      2. guess you were wrong on that one. of course our socialist inclined leaders in NY did a GREAT job getting the virus started there.

        1. ARE new Jersey, Florida and Comnecticut socialist?

          Nah trump has been caught out on this and his bs will cost you hundreds of thousands of lives.

  4. “The description “pro-life” was adopted by the right-to-life (anti-abortion) movement in the United States following the Supreme Court 1973 decision Roe v. Wade.”

    You are trying to redefine the meaning of of the phrase to suit your narrative. The only administration trying to kill off older citizens was Obama and his “death panels” in the Obamacare bill.

    Also Trump was elected for his campaign promises by a diverse group of our citizens of which Evangelicals were only a part. It was hoped he would clean up the sleeze in Washington and judging by the monumental vitriol spouting out of the Media and the Democrats for four years he is succeeding.

    1. It’s sad many on the left (both believers and nonbelievers) are trying to hijack the term “pro-life” and turn it into something they like. People like Corey are why I don’t take liberal Christianity seriously.

      1. It’s sad that many on the right only care about life in the womb and have hijacked the term pro-life. .

        People like you are why we don’t take Conservative Christianity seriously.

        1. At least conservative Christianity uplifts people and provides them hope, grace, and truth. Liberal Christianity (as demonstrated by you, Benjamin Corey, his supporters, and many others on the Christian Left) judges and condemns people. Christian liberals only love the neighbors who think/act just like them. The lack of grace, hope, and Faith-based inspiration almost makes me want to compare the Christian Left to Westboro Baptist Church and others like them.

          The Christian Left is almost as bad as atheist groups.

          1. You mean like Dietrich Bonhoeffer or MLK. We see through your lies.

            Conservative Christianity offers nothing that you can’t get from any other conservative religion.

            It’s why you have to lie all the time.

  5. Donald Trump wasn’t elected “because he convinced evangelicals to overlook 1001 reasons why a faithful Christian could never support him, and he did it by claiming to be “pro-life”.” He won because you and others on the left are so cringeworthy, hateful, judgmental, and ignorant, you make him look good in comparison. You make him look like the freaking Pope.

    Both he and Hillary were really flawed, but what decided it in the end was that one was willing to fight for Christians and the Faith, while the other was unwilling and sided with those who want people to be quiet about and diminish the importance of Faith.

    Lastly, it’s not pro-life if you’re willing to protect those already born, but refuse to protect the unborn.

        1. Yes you were manipulated.

          Trump fooled people like you.

          Incidentally it is people like you and your support for an egomaniac which is an attack on the Christian faith.

          1. No I wasn’t. Trump had no influence on how I came to my own conclusions.

            The people attacking the Christian faith are prayer bashers (both atheists and Christian liberals), people who push or threaten to push lawsuits regarding public Christian displays, and harass people for expressing their faith.

            1. Bahaha

              Poor conservatives are being persecuted by women having abortions and gays getting married.

              Yet you attack Christians who aren’t of your political persuasion.

              You not being allowed to bully others isn’t persecution, dopey.

  6. Modernity’s “Market Man” is Pro-Life for the life and health of the market and its products. As to “life, liberty, and happiness” Modern Man’s liberty is a freedom to buy and sell in a free market. This is the way to secure Market Man’s happiness. The life of the planet or of the people living on it that is a lesser concern. Meaning for Modern Man in his “disenchanted” world must be found in money and the things which it buys. In this Market Man’s life consists. Jesus might tell Modern Man to WATCH OUT
    Then he said to them, “Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; life does not consist in an abundance of possessions.” Luke 12:15
    “Modern man is alienated from himself, from his fellow human beings, and from nature. He has been transformed into a commodity, he experiences his life as an investment which must bring him the maximum profit obtainable under existing market conditions. His main aim is profitable exchange of his skills, knowledge, and of himself… Life has no goal, no satisfaction except the one to consume.”
    – Erich Fromm

    1. The lack of toilet paper, bread, hand sanitizer, and food rationing are examples of socialist living. I’ll take capitalism.

      1. Lol… That’s the capitalist mantra of supply and demand. People are buying everything up and selling it on ebay for big bucks.

        1. Under socialism, the toilet paper and bread ain’t coming back. Those store shelves will be empty for a very long time.

            1. No. More like panic and paranoia. Under capitalism, the shelves will be full again, while under socialism, it isn’t likely, much less guaranteed.

              1. Bahaha

                Who feeds you these lies?

                You need to stop watching Fox News dude.

                Maybe Cuba will send some of their doctors over to the US to help ya all out.

    2. Why don’t you identify the Socialist paradise you reside in so that the Socialists over here in the US can come live in your country?

      1. Try Sweden and Norway. The US is nowhere near the top. Capitalism is a greed driven system that takes money from its people to give to the rich via tax breaks and subsidies.

          1. Well, you’ve been misled into believe that corporate capitalism is somehow good for society. Socialism takes taxes and spends it on the people. Capitalism takes taxes and gives it to make the rich richer. Communism is not socialism. Don’t confuse the two.

            1. It impossible to confuse the two. Socialism has failed in every country that tried it causing enormous suffering and death; latest Venezuela. Some highlights of the latest experiment:

              “Instead, the mass starvation and exodus faced by Venezuelans are the natural consequence of the socialist policies implemented by dictators Hugo Chavez and Nicolas Maduro.

              There are three main policies implemented by Chavez since 1999 that produced the current crisis: Widespread nationalization of private industry, currency and price controls, and the fiscally irresponsible expansion of welfare programs.

              :…the government increased payrolls and gave away products at low cost, resulting in days-long countrywide blackouts, frequent water service interruptions, falling oil production, and bankrupt government enterprises.”

              Why would you want to do this in any country? What is the motivation to destroy another society?

            2. How is that Socialism working out for those in Venezuela? Do you think those in Venezuela eating out of garbage trucks would rather live there or live in the USA?

                1. You have to have a definition of “true socialism” in your mind. Please give me your definition of true Socialism and the country where it is successfully practiced.

              1. How’s rampant capitalism working for ya?

                You know those free markets which are supposed to save everyone?

                BTW how well has capitalism been doing in Latin America.

                There’s a reason why people turn to socialism in those countries.

                Because US crony capitalism was an abject failure.

            3. It impossible to confuse the two. Socialism has failed in every country that tried it causing enormous suffering and death; latest Venezuela. Some highlights of the latest experiment:

              “Instead, the mass starvation and exodus faced by Venezuelans are the natural consequence of the socialist policies implemented by dictators Hugo Chavez and Nicolas Maduro.

              There are three main policies implemented by Chavez since 1999 that produced the current crisis: Widespread nationalization of private industry, currency and price controls, and the fiscally irresponsible expansion of welfare programs.

              :…the government increased payrolls and gave away products at low cost, resulting in days-long countrywide blackouts, frequent water service interruptions, falling oil production, and bankrupt government enterprises.”

              Why would you want to do this in any country? What is the motivation to destroy another society?

              1. What happened in Venezuela was more like badly managed communism, not socialism. And it was done to win votes, not help people. Are you, by the way, going to turn down your check from the government? That “economic stimulus” is socialism!

                1. No it is just the normal progression of socialism and it is evil.
                  I have many employees who are a paycheck away from disaster. They need help as this was not their fault. The checks are based on tax returns and adjusted for income level. You can’t stop the check if you tried. You can’t return it but you could give it away. However, I will believe it when I see it.

            4. That’s weird because rampant capitalism ie globalism and global markets is what is shutting down us industry and the government has to either apply tariffs, subsidise (socialism) or give the big stick to, like trump has done.

            5. Under socialism, you don’t get anything in return. Plus, the two are one and the same in a way.

              Socialism is HIV and communism is AIDS. You’re the one who has been misled. People who defend something like socialism are as bad as socialism itself.

            6. are you a serious student of history? The reality is that power corrupts and total power corrupts totally…..give the power to the state and whatever they give they can take…worse, those at the top ALWAYS have what they want

              1. You are still talking about communism. Norway and Sweden are socialist countries, and far more democratic than the US. By giving Trump so much power, we have allowed capitalist corporations to rule our country to our detriment.

                1. You must be a Bernie and Ocrazy Cortes supporter. But consider this, most in the Democrat party SAY they oppose his positions on Socialism.

                  Since you brought up education to me, I offer some education for you. You are most welcome.

                  Why Bernie Sanders Is Wrong About Sweden – WSJwww.wsj.com › Opinion › The Weekend Interview
                  Aug 23, 2019 – The ‘Nordic model’ of socialism, which he and other leftists tout, is more … overtook the country’s dominant center-left Social Democratic Party.

                  Dear Bernie Sanders: Sweden’s democratic socialism …www.seattletimes.com › opinion › dear-bernie-sanders-swedens-democr…
                  Mar 10, 2020 – Dear Bernie Sanders: Sweden’s democratic socialism depends on robust … believe, Sweden is one of the most capitalist countries on Earth.

                  Swedish Ex-Prime Minister Rebukes Bernie: Socialism Only …mises.org › power-market › swedish-ex-prime-minister-rebukes-berni…
                  Especially because he still calls himself a Democratic Socialist while using Nordic countries as examples of what he defends. Thankfully, political figures from …

                  Sorry Bernie Bros But Nordic Countries Are Not Socialistwww.forbes.com › sites › jeffreydorfman › 2018/07/08 › sorry-berni…
                  Jul 8, 2018 – A common response from the left is that socialism (or democratic socialism) works just fine in Sweden, Norway, and Denmark. It is certainly true …

                  Democratic Socialist Countries 2020 – World Population Reviewworldpopulationreview.com › countries › democratic-socialist-countries
                  Feb 17, 2020 – However, Sweden is not a “pure” socialist country. It has a free-market economy with very few government regulations, something that is a …

                  Bernie Sanders is wrong on democratic socialism in Sweden …www.nbcnews.com › think › opinion › bernie-sanders-wrong-democr…
                  Mar 15, 2020 – For proof, he points to Scandinavian countries like Sweden. Sanders’ argument takes as its starting point the perception that the Scandinavian “ …

                  Native Swede Debunks Myth of Nordic Countries as Socialistwww.dailysignal.com › 2019/07/26 › native-of-scandinavia-debunks-…
                  Jul 26, 2019 – “Whatever you think about Sweden and what we did, you have to … Some point to Nordic countries as democratic socialism in action, but some …

                  The Myth of Nordic Socialism – Barron’swww.barrons.com › articles › the-myth-of-nordic-socialism-51554296401
                  Apr 3, 2019 – Sweden, Norway, Denmark, and other Scandinavian countries may … but the dream of a “democratic socialism” based on the Nordic model.

                  Why Democratic Socialists Can’t Legitimately Claim Sweden …www.heritage.org › international-economies › commentary › why-de…
                  Aug 10, 2018 – First, these countries are not technically socialist. Second, the success of these countries is clearly based on a capitalist foundation, and it …

              2. Our “young people” or the Bernie Boys are infatuated with self delusion. The bigger question is with all the hype and support how did the Democrats end up with two old white guys out of that large field. But more directly:

                from Barron’s
                The conclusion: Why should countries like the United Kingdom or the U.S. make the same mistake as the Swedes did in the 1970s? Sweden’s “democratic socialism” with high taxes, redistribution and high state regulation has failed, and the young people who are today enthusiastic about the ideas of Bernie Sanders should draw lessons from the experiences of Sweden and other Nordic countries.

            7. Contrary to what Sanders and his supporters might believe, Sweden is one of the most capitalist countries on Earth. It boasts strong property rights and allows big profits for several internationally competitive firms. In fact, Sweden has the most billionaires per capita, far outpacing China and the United States. This is because it allows goods and services to be allocated via prices. The state does not own firms or banks and, in fact, did not bail out banks during the early 1990s banking crisis, or Saab motors when it went bankrupt. The same cannot be said about the United States after the 2008 financial crisis.

              https://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/dear-bernie-sanders-swedens-democratic-socialism-depends-on-robust-capitalism/

            1. Please give me your definition of democratic socialism and then
              educate me where your definition of democratic socialism is successfully practiced.

                1. It is going to take more than that to get our Socialists to leave the USA. I wish you had something to entice them other than a flu shot.

                  1. No one’s going anywhere in case you haven’t heard.
                    You can come over when this clears up if you’re still alive. (doubtful)
                    Trump said our health system was so much better than yours.

                    Well done socialism.

                    Better than the USA at half the cost per person.

                    1. Lol… But… But… Free health care is communism….

                      You are the most ingenuous person on here.

                      No wonder you’re such a coward.

                  1. Lol…
                    See the conservatives more worried about money than saving peoples lives.

                    Hey when you get this virus it’s not going to give a f**k about your bank balance. And your insurance policy won’t save you when there’s stuff all beds and respirators.

                    1. Bone you can’t be as stupid as you appear to be. I don’t have much of a bank account but I enjoy work and personal responsibility–seems it does much for human flourishing. You would do well to seek to flourish and act responsibly.

                    2. Enjoy your work and personal responsibility while you’re in lockdown or if you get sick you might be lucky to get a hospital bed.

                      The stupidity of Americans like you is going to cause a disaster.

              1. Ffs how stupid are Americans

                Try looking at Europe and Australia where most countries have the basics of free health care which people like yourself would rather your loved ones die.

                Thats probably why Trump said our health care system is so much better than yours.

                1. I have friends in Europe….their story is not yours. and “if everyone jumped off a mountain you would be wise not to do so”

                  1. Nearly a thousand dead in Italy yesterday.

                    Why do you think most of the world is in lockdown?

                    Just ignore it Everitt, you’ll be fine…..

        1. So, you live off others. Let’s hope Herm, Lucas, and Michtou quickly leave the USA and come to your Socialist paradise.
          You could list more ways that you live off others in order to entice them.

            1. Bones will be keeping himself safe while you die enraged at Leftists.

              You can always move over here Bob.

              I mean Trump said how much better our free health care system is compared to yours.

          1. Bahaha my country provides for its citizens. A shame yours doesn’t. Hey when you get coronavirus and they don’t have enough respirators and hospital beds for you, tell us then how good capitalism is.

              1. Yeah 800 deaths a day in Italy and Spain is empty talk. The USA will be worse and has less medical facilities then both countries.
                Covid doesn’t care about your politics, religion or nationality.

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