In the Israel/Palestine conflict, is Israel guilty of genocide against the Palestinians?
Yes– absolutely.
The other day I wrote a short piece on why the Bible does not command us to blindly stand with the modern state of Israel, and one of the points I made is that Israel is guilty of genocide. There were no shortage of internet commenters who objected to my use of this word and felt it was over the top. However, I stand by my assertion that Israel is guilty of genocide, so allow me to expand upon that.
I believe the main reason many push back on the idea that Israel is guilty of genocide is because of a lack of understanding of the full nuance of the word, and what genocide can look like in a modern context. While rounding up people for mass executions would be obvious evidence of genocide, the reality is that genocide can take place in ways that are more subtle– making it palatable for the masses, and even seem justified at times.
Some scholars have referred to the Israel/Palestine conflict as “incremental genocide” and I would agree with that term. Instead of an overt, blatant attempt to eradicate a people group, incremental genocide involves actions and policies that are designed to slowly erode, break up, and destroy a specific population. Think for example of early American history and the genocide of Native Americans. While it wasn’t always mass killings, genocide occurred by military conflict, expanding land holdings, resettlements, and creating conditions that were destructive for the indigenous population. While it took many years to complete, and while it took many forms, what early Americans did to the indigenous people of North America was nothing short of genocide.
The same holds true for Israel.
The legal definition of genocide includes the following:
“Acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group such as:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part.”
While A and B are both elements we find present in Israel’s approach to Palestinians, the key aspect of genocide being waged by Israel is found in C: the deliberate infliction of conditions that in part or as a whole will destroy a people group. Arab Christians and Muslims known as Palestinians have been undoubtedly the target of Israel and a desire to eradicate them from the land.
When Israel was created it resulted in an instant crisis for the Christians and Muslims who had lived together quite peacefully for hundreds and hundreds of years. Even today there are somewhere around 3.5 to 4 million Palestinian refugees who wish to have the right to return to their homes and land– a request that will never be granted by Israel.
For those who remain in Palestinian territory, they might as well be living in a massive open-air prison, because they live under the occupation of a foreign army. Children are routinely tear gassed on the way to school. Imports are severely restricted, with even basics like water being tightly controlled. Their rights of passage are severely curtailed– families have been broken up and people have died at military checkpoints because they were delayed or denied passage to access critical medical care.
To top it all off, what little land Palestinians have left is under systematic erosion by Israeli policy. Illegal Israeli settlements continue to crop up in Palestinian territory, in violation of international law. These illegal settlements, in addition to literally confiscating land from indigenous people, often bring violence to the Palestinians who live there. Even just a brief youtube search will bring up countless examples of women and children being assaulted by illegal settlers, or examples like Palestinian farms being attacked and destroyed at harvest time.
Let’s not be dishonest in the ultimate goal here: it is to rid the land of Palestinians.
Capture their land. Develop policies to evict them from their houses. Send in settlers and soldiers to colonize what land they still have. Refuse to let refugees back. Make them miserable under military rule. Limit their access to basic, life-sustaining resources.
The goal? Be not deceived: this is ethnic cleansing.
Do the Palestinians ever fight back and use violence? Yes, of course. This is equally wrong. It is also highly ineffective because it plays right into the hands of Israel, who uses this as an excuse to respond with utterly overwhelming military violence, such as arresting and incarcerating children accused of throwing rocks, or wiping out entire communities in the name of self-defense, such has been seen in Gaza.
So here’s where we’re at: Many of the indigenous people were displaced upon the creation of the modern state of Israel, and the number of displaced people has continued to grow. They are refugees who live in poverty and painful conditions at refugee camps. Israel has systematically expanded its borders to functionally capture more and more land that belonged to Palestinians. Of what’s left, Palestinians have to suffer under a brutal military occupation where so many aspects of life are restricted or deprived. To top it all off, Israel continues to expand illegal settlements into Palestinian territory, further creating conditions designed to break up and destroy the will of Palestinians to even exist.
That folks, is genocide. It is incremental, slow-motion genocide. If the international community continues to turn a blind eye, it will do nothing short of ensure the complete destruction and or displacement of the Palestinian people.
Is calling this genocide over the top? No, it’s not. It’s genocide. Legally. Morally. It’s genocide.
It’s just happening in slow motion, so the world doesn’t see it.
(And it’s being done by the people we’re told are God’s favorite, so we don’t even want to see it.)
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Well-written, clear, and absolutely accurate. Thanks for this.
Wriggle as you like with definitions, your grand assertions do not square with Palestinian population under Israeli rule, demonstrating consistent growth since 1948.
https://worldpopulation.theglobalgraph.com/p/palestine-population.html
Has it occurred to you that you can’t have your cake and eat it too? either Israel is this mega-powerful, omnipotent empire that is extremely efficient at pursuing its will, or it is an incompetent, powerless nation. An omnipotent nation wishing to commit genocide, would simply do it, and this graph above would not look the way it does. So either Israel wants to commit genocide but is too incompetent (sorry to derail the “all powerful Zionists planned everything right from the Big Bang” theory) or, the Palestinian hardship is real, but it could have other explanations than a systematic Israeli genocide policy. Perhaps Israel is doing what it thinks is best to curtail terror from a terror-supportive population (rightly or wrongly). That is not complimentary to Israel, but it is still a far cry from genocide. Your enthusiasm in pasting together the best clickworthy words to get traction for your doubtless good intentions, will eventually prove counterproductive, in the age of being able to google anything in half a minute. Your genocide tag mainly convinces the convinced. Most other neutrals it puts off. Essentially, a waste of time for you.
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So anyone defending their country is ‘guilty’ of ‘incremental genocide’.
How about ‘No’?
More NWO BS.
The pals’ demographic has increased.
You have an odd definition of “defending their country.” Next thing you’ll be posting is that Jews from Brooklyn by way of Europe are indigenous to the land.
Jews, or rather Judeans and their Canaanite ancestors ARE the people indigenous to the land. For at least 3,000 years there have ALWAYS been Jews living in the area.
Really, Jews who lived on the land were placeholders for the descendants of Jews who left the land 2000 years ago?
How about Ivanka Trump and her kids, are they indigenous to the land?
Didn’t non-Jews always live on the land.
Are ancient Hebrews from the Galilee called Gews?
I think you are illiterate..
In a aad and tragic way..
Try punching yourself in the balls..see if it wakes you up..
“Palestinian” demographics:
1997 – population 2,783,084
2019 – population 5,182,410
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Israeli arabs demographics:
2009 – population 1,536,000
2019 population 1,890,000
I think you understood the word “genocide” very wrong..
Israel is a fascist Nazi – like apartheid state. Having lived there for years it is a hell hole. Jews there are delusional and in denial. If you want to understand why a supposedly good person can rationalize evil just talk to an Israeli.
Lies.
wow – powerful argument
Clearly you don’t know the definitions for fascism, Nazi, apartheid, or hell-hole. Israel is none of those things. Where did you live? Were you a citizen? Were the Israeli Arabs discriminated against by the government? Put into concentration and death camps? Is everyone there starving, oppressed, living in squalor?
Please don’t generalise with a whole nation of people. There are many Jewish people and communities who oppose the crimes and atrocities that are being committed in their name – not all Jews are Zionists, not all Jewish people are supporters of this schoah. You should not ignore the many good Jewish people who have stood up and denounced this evil government and their crimes against humanity. It may be true that their voices are stifled and trampled upon by the oppressors, but that should not be taken as silence
What crimes and atrocities – speaking of generalizations?
All Israelis are evil??? That’s ludicrous, as well as outright racist, which a lot of these Palestinian sympathisers are guilty of.
Nice, answer a generalisation with a generalisation – adult conversation anyone?
So true!! I have a dear friend who is a self-described Zionist who lives in the settlements. He really believes that what Israelis are doing to the Palestinians is not actually happening, and if you point out a situation (there are many) that is irrefutable, he believes they must have deserved it. We don’t speak much about this, because I can’t get past his delusions. If you didn’t know this about him and just met him on the streets of London (where we met), you’d think he’s a brilliant, kind, compassionate and wonderful human (all qualities he does posses…except…). I’m still trying to get my head around that. I imagine this inconsistency is something the average person in Germany felt when confronted by Jew-hating fellow citizens. It’s a weird, bizarre, and uncomfortable thing. It’s like they’re all drinking the same kool-aid. Very similar to how entire generations of Chinese believed the Great Leap Forward. I’m sure there is a name for this.
It is very sad that we cannot have important current event discussions with our friends. The “alternate reality” I’m afraid is here to stay. If we cannot debate with some kind of common facts–then I have found there can be no discussion. Your dear friend has a different set of facts than you have. He does not believe your set of facts are true.
I have dear friends who think that Donald Trump walks on water and there can be no discussing otherwise– as my facts are “wrong.”
God help us, may truth prevail is my prayer!
What is it you think Israel is doing to the Arabs in the territories? And, there are no settlements. There are new Israeli towns on Israeli land. The Arabs in the territories are stateless, and have no legal claim of sovereignty to any of this land.
West Bank – Israelis demolish Palestinian homeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DV8KvQG-Xw
Middle East: Israel destroys family homes of Palestinian knife attackers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2Ulbol7wjw
Israeli troops uproot 300 Palestinians’ olive trees
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kst5RbXScHM
Israeli Navy Opens Fire on Palestinian Fishing Boats
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ibWswXKolM
Israeli Occupation Forces Open Fire on Palestinian Farmers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZgI65fkiCc
Israeli military evicts Palestinian family in Hebron
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsFJ6FBY2Eo
Palestinian families evicted and made homeless so new Israeli settlers can move in.Two Palestinian families, totaling 46 persons, were evacuated from
their homes in Sheikh Jarrakh, East Jerusalem, on 2 August 2009, and
settlers immediately moved in to the houses. The Israeli High Court has
accepted the claim to Jewish ownership of this property.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asz4MDwssQc
More than 100 settlers stormed a residential building in occupied Hebron
on 25 July 2017 and evicted its Palestinian residents under the
protection of occupation forces.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9xdQiEpEH0
Grabbed by the throat: Israeli police detains 2 protesting against eviction of Palestinian family
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32qQzub37A0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asz4MDwssQc
Israeli occupation soldiers humiliate and beat up Palestinian at the checkpoints!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzInGYlLUAM
Israeli policeman caught on video beating Palestinian truck driver
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUE_RmGrBBs
IDF troops film themselves humiliating bound Palestinian (Haaretz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otmDV3sk9aE
IDF Soldiers Forced Passengers to Undress
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkZ5c6PpIGA
Testimony – Palestinians humiliated in raid in Jericho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhkbbuVoFoY
“Sharmuta Video” – Settler harassment of Palestinians in Hebron
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUXSFsJV084
Video of IDF soldier dancing by bound Palestinian woman sparks scandal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92oNgH_BO5Y
CHECKPOINTS IN PALESTINE 4-6
Just another average day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF30AjvvusI
Not helpful.
Israelis themselves use the term settlements (yishuvim).
Yes, many of the Palestinian Arabs living in the West Bank stateless are stateless (except for those born before the Six Day War who have Jordanian citizenship). That reflects the fact that Israel has not extended full sovereignty over the area and has not extended the opportunity of citizenship to everyone who lives there.
Now, most of the settlements are within certain blocks and the expectation is that these blocks would be included in land swaps in any eventual peace agreement, but that agreement does not yet exist.
oh, the horror
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpDqZujEFAk
A bowling alley, restaurants, shops, decent buildings, no checkpoints for most journeys, Dominos Pizzas…hmmmm. Life doesn’t look too bad for Palestinians. As a world traveller I can assure you that there are many places in the world a lot worse than here. It just goes to show you, you can fool a lot of the people a lot of the time.
Right, there you go again Ben, using facts to highlight the cancerous spirit of exceptionalism destroying the infighting descendants of Abraham without exception to any.
Do you do this because it brings more interest in your blog, just because it is more constructive in spirit than any self-indulgent tribalism, or both? How dare you!?!?
You are a studied man of the world, who has not been sheltered and is truly not naive. You insistently keep on adding one more nail to your cross and I thank you for the sacrifice! Love you!
>Instead of an overt, blatant attempt to eradicate a people group, incremental genocide involves actions and policies that are designed to slowly erode, break up, and destroy a specific population.
Habakkuk 1.2
O LORD, how long shall I cry, and thou wilt not hear! even cry out unto thee of violence, and thou wilt not save!
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I am smitten with fleas… / the plagues of Egypt.
I’ve been meditating on this, part II of a 2-part posting, as, while I don’t expect agreement, I do hope I can make myself understood.
My beloved late Pop, may he be at peace, was a quite liberal Jewish man… My late grandfather, whom I never had the honor to meet was Orthodox; while not a Chassid, was from a shtetl in Galicia/Poland/Ukraine. Those family members that chose not to follow him here in the ’10’s and forward have been nourishing the Polish topsoil for generations. (Grandfather David passed in ’51 from arterial sclerosis at the age of 59… was a businessman, but off the clock a gourmet Kosher chef… chicken fat did him in)
My late Pop’s eyes would flash in indignation were anyone to have accused him of being a Zionist… My late Grandfather subscribed to the conviction that only ha-Mashiach (the Messiah) could establish the political state of Yisro’el (Israel)
Those that insist that the current political entity of Israel, especially amongst the so-described Christian Zionists, do not explore the logical progression.
Those American-style Evangelical Protestant Christians who base their “theology” on not much better than Hal Lindsey, Frank Peretti, and the “Left Behind” series (which folks must admit, there seem to be a disturbingly huge number amongst our fellow world-citizens), don’t really follow up that it seems to be imperative that every professing Jew must go to occupy that particular piece of real estate, and those that don’t identify as the modern Evangelical type of “Messianic” will be fried on the spot.
Not all Jews are Zionists. I happen to be one who is not. The political state of Israel is an established fact. And such nation has every right to exist that applies to every other nation in the world community…
But… too many here in this country of the USA who don’t read anything more than their pet affirming, confirmation-biased blogs, “news” sites and not much of anything else assume that Mr. Netanyahu’s Likud Party doctrine is ‘Eretz Yisroel and that the converse is also true are what was attributed to Mr. V. Lenin… “useful idiots.”
Zionist just means one who believes the Jewish people have a right to self determination. Belief it or not the majority of Jewish Zionists are not right wing.
Actually just Google Zionism definition. You sound like a Zionist that doesn’t know what the word means.
A lot of Jewish Zionists live in the United States. Zionism doesn’t mean a Jew has to live in Israel.
if only that were true
LOL, look up the the definition of the word. What I said is indeed true. Of course Zionism exists as a spectrum ranging from left to right. Demonizing Zionism helps no one.
The oversight of Zionism is not seeing a value in living in a land, but rather in ownership of that land, without recognition of the rights of the humans who already lived there. I struggle to trust in any politics that does not allow for co-existence. History shows us that sooner or later, they will come to us with that same attitude. I value all human life equally, whatever bloodlines they are from or whatever spiritual beliefs that they choose to follow.
Self-determination for a people is a bold cause. But it should embrace ALL of those people, without special cases. It should be representative.
I disagree with Islamic fundamentalists who wish to impose their beliefs and laws onto me for the exact same reason, and I would be a hypocrite to reject one without the other
I would only disagree only on one point: Nations don’t have rights, people have rights
Obviously Israel needs Lebensraum for her ubermensch people. Their attitude seems to be why should the untermensch palestians occupy land that their betters could have.
Obviously you hate Jews.
… latent Stockholm Syndrome?
It takes a great deal of courage to speak out like this. Sadly, people only want to see what they want to see, not what is actually there. Keep telling the emperor he has no clothes on, Benjamin.
i would probably be asked to leave my church if i share this on facebook. ?
i have christian friends that went to Israel almost 40 years ago and they were warned about proselytizing. i believe it may still be against the law and enforced.? do christians believe that Palestine was empty before 1948 ? that nobody lived there ? i guess eminent domain is alive and well. Isn’t that what we were taught in grade school about the indian genicide in the USA ?
Yes, proselytizing is illegal in Israel and the penalty is stoning. That’s why the fastest growing religion in Israel is Messianic Judiasm and why it is the only country in the middle East that has a growing Christian population. Currently 20% population are Arab Israelis and 50% of the population of Israel are descendants of Arab Jews who were kicked out of the Islamic nations that surround the country. Please try to inform yourself better.
This guy literally uses every cliche of pro-Palestinaian rhetoric. Why is there no mention that the Palestinians were offered a state 5 times or the hundreds of suicide bombings from 1993-2004 before the security fence was built. Having sympathy for the Palestinians is one thing but distorting the reality of the conflict is unhelpful and certainly not in keeping with the teaching of the Jewish carpenter from this area that the author purports to follow.
Israel is a complex society in the middle of the most volatile area on earth.. It is far from perfect, but what I consonantly see are those denominations that are dominated by replacement theologies are most likely to unfairly criticize Israel. The underlying message is that Jews killed Christ and are now behaving like Nazis perpetrating ethnic cleansing against the Palestinians. What a perfect marriage of old fashioned antisemitism and the academic left: Martin Luther and IIan Pappe. How virtuous the author must feel.
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It should be trivial for you then to provide the maps, the finalized offers, and the legal basis for any such deals that have been offered. Obviously, for any of these offers you so flippantly make assertions about will be in full compliance with Article 22, paragraphs 1 and 4 of the League of Nations Covenant which provides of course the legal basis for historic Palestine when Palestine consisted of a majority of Muslim Palestinians, nearly eight to one, and full compliance with Article 2, paragraph 4 of the UN Charter, and Article 49, paragraph 6 of the 4th Geneva Convention.
Or, provide evidence that all of the above mentioned bedrock international legal principles have been rescinded. Oh, and don’t forget the part about where Israel changes both the Israeli declaration of independence which currently and has since May 14th, 1948 asserted that Israel’s legal borders as set forth under UNGAR 181 are “irrevocable” as well as the testimony six days later by the provisional government of Israel that UNGAR 181 borders are the internationally accepted borders of the nascent state of Israel see S/766 and that they fully intended to comply with international law.
What would you do if someone came to your house and threw you and your family out and moved in. Would you not fight back? Palestinians have a right under international law to resist by any means. How you can excuse it by saying “they were offered a state 5 times” is disgusting. You offer people a state on their own land? The world is waking up and this genocidal apartheid state will end, just as apartheid ended in South Africa. One state with equal rights for all, right of return and recompense. Whomever doesn’t want that, can leave and go back to Europe (where they originated from) and leave the land to the real Semitic peoples.
What does Martin Luther have to do with Israel stealing Palestinian land.
Maybe i’ll go kick your arse out and take your house and give it to some Muslims because God said.
the so called “Palestinians” can get land from Jordan. They are not native to Judea.
If Israel wanted to genocide the palestinians, they would have done it by now.. They just want to live in peace. When Palestinians decide they want to fire on Israel,, they have every right to defend themselves.. I would do it myself.
A population increasing 5 times in 70 years is not Genocide. Corey is nothing more than a genteel antisemite
The perfunctory, boring, and banal charge of anti-Semitism. You need some new material.
As if Palestine was just sitting there sipping tea peacefully when the evil Jews came and took their land and subjugated them. What a joke. Look at the history. When Britain released control of the area, which had been repeatedly conquered (or as the author should say, forcibly occupied and inflicted acts of GENOCIDE, the UN tries to divide the areas between Jews and Arabs. Jews say ok. Arabs say no, in large part because they want to keep strict QUOTAS on the “Zionist infiltrators”. On 1 December 1947, the Arab Higher Committee proclaimed a three-day strike, and Arab gangs began attacking Jewish targets (GENOCIDE???). Jews fight back, end up WINNING, and the sore losers have been stabbing people and throwing bombs ever since. That’s the short factual version. This is a case of a war being started, and the losers that started the war put forth a campaign to convince as many as possible they’re the victim and not an aggressor, all while actively killing people. Oh, the author says this is “equally wrong”, so I guess GENOCIDE is their goal too. FAIL.
Ignorance is bliss.
you’re living proof. Also “a pithy saying proves nothing”
And you just proved it.
No, Jews did NOT just say okay. As a matter of fact they’ve been refusing to just say okay and have been moving the goalposts ever since.
You’re a moron. The British tried to rescind Balfour because Israel reneged. They were not to displace the indigenous population nor were they to destroy its culture. They did both. Which is why the 1939 White Paper was drafted. When it was, your whiny sore loser heroes led by the Irgun and Lehi and their terrorist leaders and future Israeli Prime ministers Begin and Shamir attacked British garrisons and offered twice in writing to support the Nazis militarily against Britain.
Documents are freely downloadable. Update your notes.
Never Again…to US. It’s ok if WE do it to others, because…hey, it isn’t like _they_ are God’s chosen people.
Also: Ethnic Cleaning and not “genocide”.
dear lords. please open this person eyes.
it is Genocide when you are wiping out whole families. just like Hitler did in WW2 if you had Jewish blood he sent you to prison camps to die. if you have a drop of Palestinian blood in you they kill you. IT IS GENOCIDE because it’s more then just killing people over a faith, they are aiming to kill them for the crime of not being Jewish which is much more then just a religion. If you are not Jewish you should be a slave, and if you are not fit to be a slave they just kill you. THAT is what is going on over there.
Hi Annabella.
I’d rather go with “Ethnic Cleansing”.
After all, there’s no gene for Judaism. Just as there’s no gene for Sikhism or Islam either.
Of course, historically speaking, completely wiping out one’s enemies was simply the way war was conducted. It was a strategy that lead to this weird “victory” thing…
No slavery in the Arab world then?
You ignorant triggered extremist. How many Jews are in Islamic states and in Fakeastinians controlled areas? That’s where you will find genocide. Ignorant Brown Shirt concubine.
wow, you’re alright by me…even if you are religious.
every christian should follow this example. my people are being genocided and that has to stop.
There’s zero wrong with fighting back against systematic destruction. And when you do you fight with everything you have and use every trick in the book. Or you die. I can’t argue with their choice.
I agree with everything else wholeheartedly
Bullshit.
Why did you guys kill Rabin?
Why did your mother raise a ???
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See, this is why you’re being called an antisemitic piece of shit.
Because I asked why you killed Rabin?
Seems the only bigoted piece of shit here is you.
I really do find it Vile and Evil. we save them from genocide and they in turn go on to commit genocide I am not labelling all Jewish people like these folks i know plenty who are against what they are doing. but those that have taken over Palestine should know better, they are the children and grand children of the victims of WW2 and they have gone on to commit the same acts that their ancestors were survivors of. But to say that is apparently Antisemitism it’s disgusting >:( I don’t think all Jewish folk are remotely like the jew’s committing this vileness but i do think the jews that are committing these acts of evil are the most vile scum of the universe along with other vile evil scumbags of the universe of other creeds, colours and races.
Excuse me? You saved us from genocide? Six million Jews died – over half our total world population. And we still haven’t completely recovered that population.
No Jews “took over” Palestine, which, by the way, was a region of the Ottoman Empire, not a country. When they first began returning to their homeland, where they are the indigenous people, they purchased every inch of land that they lived on and farmed. Later, under the Mandate, they were given sovereignty over all the land from the River to the Sea. In the Declaration for the Establishment of the State of Israel, the following clauses were included:
WE APPEAL – in the very midst of the onslaught launched against us now for months – to the Arab inhabitants of the State of Israel to preserve peace and participate in the upbuilding of the State on the basis of full and equal citizenship and due representation in all its provisional and permanent institutions.
WE EXTEND our hand to all neighbouring states and their peoples in an offer of peace and good neighbourliness, and appeal to them to establish bonds of cooperation and mutual help with the sovereign Jewish people settled in its own land. The State of Israel is prepared to do its share in a common effort for the advancement of the entire Middle East.
The Arab response – a war of extermination against the new nation. Despite this, many Arabs remained, and Israel brought back 100,000 Arabs who had fled. They were willing to bring back another 100,000 but the Arab League wouldn’t allow it, having already realized what great pawns the refugees made. In addition, Israel paid out tens of thousands of shekels to all legal claimants who had lost property.
After the 67 war, when Israel retook territory that had been illegally occupied by Jordan and Egypt, she greatly improved the quality of life of the Arabs living there. There has been no genocide and no ethnic cleansing on the part of Israel. The Arabs, on the other hand, have stated in both the Hamas Covenant and the PLO Charter that their goals are the destruction of Israel and the genocide of the Jews.You should read these before making such foolish comments.
Palestine was a Mandate….and for all extents and purposes was a country.
Once again this was forced on the Palestinian Muslims and Christians who rejected it.
And you might want to check out the Likud charter…..
“The 1999 Likud Party platform emphasizes the right of settlement.
“The Jewish communities in Judea, Samaria, and Gaza are the realization of Zionist values. Settlement of the land is a clear expression of the unassailable right of the Jewish people to the Land of Israel and constitutes an important asset in the defense of the vital interests of the State of Israel. The Likud will continue to strengthen and develop these communities and will prevent their uprooting.”[35]
Similarly, they claim the Jordan River as the permanent eastern border to Israel and it also claims Jerusalem as belonging to Israel.
The ‘Peace & Security’ chapter of the 1999 Likud Party platform rejects a Palestinian state.
“The Government of Israel flatly rejects the establishment of a Palestinian Arab state west of the Jordan river. The Palestinians can run their lives freely in the framework of self-rule, but not as an independent and sovereign state. Thus, for example, in matters of foreign affairs, security, immigration, and ecology, their activity shall be limited in accordance with imperatives of Israel’s existence, security and national needs.”[35]
With Likud back in power, starting in 2009, Israeli foreign policy is still under review. Likud leader Benjamin Netanyahu, in his “National Security” platform, neither endorsed nor ruled out the idea of a Palestinian state.[36] “Netanyahu has hinted that he does not oppose the creation of a Palestinian state, but aides say he must move cautiously because his religious-nationalist coalition partners refuse to give away land.”[37]
On 14 June 2009, Netanyahu delivered a speech[38] at Bar-Ilan University (also known as “Bar-Ilan Speech”), at Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies, that was broadcast live in Israel and across parts of the Arab world, on the topic of the Middle East peace process. He endorsed for the first time the creation of a Palestinian state alongside Israel, with several conditions.
However, on 16 March 2015, Netanyahu stated in the affirmative, that if he were elected, a Palestinian state would not be created.[39] Netanyahu argued, “anyone who goes to create today a Palestinian state and turns over land, is turning over land that will be used as a launching ground for attacks by Islamist extremists against the State of Israel.”[39] Some take these statements to mean that Netanyahu and Likud oppose a Palestinian state. After having been criticised by U.S. White House Spokesperson Josh Earnest for the “divisive rhetoric” of his election campaign, on 19 March 2015, Netanyahu retreated to “I don’t want a one-state solution. I want a peaceful, sustainable two-state solution. I have not changed my policy.”[40]”
Hmmmmm…. anyone see the hypocrisy there…
Hamas=evil because they do not recognise Israel.
Likud=good because they do not recognise Palestinian State and actively support the taking of Palestinian land.
Holocaust survivors have condemned Israel and agree that it is genocide. They are not Jews but Zionists.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/holocaust-survivors-and-their-descendants-accuse-israel-of-genocide-9687994.html
That is simply not true.
http://www.thereligionofprace.com
Annabella you saved no one you trifling racheting bigoted dishonorable racist.
These were children and grandchildren of survivors who clearly didn’t know what they were talking about as the facts belie them.
It is not genocide, nor is it apartheid. The Palestinians are not a single ethnic, religious, national group because firstly, Palestine never existed as a legislative state. There is little difference between the Palestinians and the Jordanian Arabs. The Ottoman Empire ruled this area for almost 500 years and when it collapsed the British and the French, rightly or wrongly, carved out the region and created new states like Iraq and Jordan.
Much of the hysterical abuse against the Israelis has been criticised by many as being anti-Semitic. Many people have often asked – why are they so selective in their outrage when there is far worse going on in Yemen. in Libya and certainly, in Syria? Why indeed?
For starters that’s bs. Palestine was a recognised Mandate in the same way as Syria and Iraq was.
Secondly, how long do you thin the Israelis are going to occupy the west Bank….forever?
Or until they’ve taken over all of it.
Thirdly, what happened to the principles of democracy- of a people governing for themselves which people like you throw under a bus in support of ethno-religious division.
Your pathetic propaganda won’t wash.
As for Yemen, the US supports Saudi Arabia in Yemen. And Israel has a cosy relationship with Saudi Arabia whose fighting a proxy war with Iran.
And no one’s ignoring those proxy wars, you goose, especially Israel.
1. And the Mandate was for the creation of the Jewish state. Period. The Arabs got all the rest.
2. According to UNSC 242, the territories are in dispute, not occupied. According to the Geneva Conventions, the territories are not occupied – it would behoove you to read them.
3. Over 98% of the Arabs do govern themselves. Those remaining in Area C are free to move to A and B whenever they want.
4. Israel’s semi-positive relationship is both very new and very conditional. When the Iranian threat goes away, so will the relationship.
So the Israeli bots have gone form there was no Palestine to it was Palestine only for Jews.
Guess what the Arabs (Muslim and Christian) didn’t like it.
Oh and Area C is on Palestinian land.
Not occupied hey…..
The IDF are only sightseeing……
So Israel is only taking Palestinian and increasing settlements because of Iran.
When Iran stops being a threat the settlements will disappear.
And you expect everyone to believe your horseshit?
Initially, the San Remo Accord of 1920 gave All of what is todays Jordan for an Israeli Homeland (as well as Gaza). That is the agreement which must be surmounted by an International Court.
So the people of the West Bank have no say in their own sovereignty?
I’m interested to know where else in the world that applies?
Once again you types are quick to throw out the principles of democracy for your own ideology.
Exactly what is their right to sovereignty over any land based on? They are a disparate group of Arabs who used to be Jordanians living on Israeli territory that they have no legal claim to. Their cry for sovereignty is just another propaganda lie in the Arab/Muslim unending quest for the destruction of Israel and the Jews. But, you’re okay with that, right, Bones?
The Palestinians I know in Ramallah have been there for centuries.
Once again thanks for showing your total disregard for the principles of democracy.
Oh and that you do nothing but lie.
Do you understand what sovereignty is? Something the Arabs in Judea and Samaria never had! The land belongs to the Jews in accordance with international law whether you, or the Arabs, like it or not. If the Arabs would accept that and behave accordingly, their troubles would soon be over. People like you enable their delusion and keep them living in misery.
It seems you don’t understand what sovereignty is.
Thats why Bibi has neen denying it to Palestinians while increasing settlements.
Now if only they would behave while we steal their land….
Not very convincing Bibi.
They live in Democratic Israel.
No, they don’t.
And Israel doesn’t want them.
Tell that to the 20% non-Jewish population that has made it clear many times that they have no desire to leave Israel and be governed by the PA or any other Arab org.
Try telling that to the Palestinian population that Israel refuses to accept a one OR two state solution.
Why did you shoot Rabin?
Israel didn’t. One deranged man shot him, and the entire nation condemned him.
Israel doesn’t have to accept any solution that will result in her destruction. She is not legally required to give even an inch of land to the Arabs.
A deranged man?
Yep, like you.
Thats why you support keeping populations under perpetual occupation.
‘Appropriate; Einstein being an Idiot.
Lol…right wing moron yells at the sky.
The only thing Israelis have ever wanted is, if not get along, then to be left alone by the Palestinians. If you like, I can offer you photos of what this peaceful little bunch of people have done to Israelis over 70 years. Your facts are beyond laughable: Palestine is not a “recognized mandate”. It never was. This people drifted into Israel and have brought their cruel proclivities with them, taking Israeli lives and this week, actually, dressed a donkey in an Israeli flag, beat it to death, and burned it. That was in Gaza. They are in Gaza because they cannot behave like normal human beings and therefore have to be separated out. Arabs in Israel are quite happy. They enjoy full citizenship and everything that entails. And when you come back at me, and you know you will, please show me the courtesy of speaking truths, not the lies the Palestinians want you to believe.
Yeah let’s start with the King David bombing……
And the perpetrators became Israeli leaders and heroes.
Netanyahu still supports it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hs4Z5b-ddE
Do you actually know what the King David bombing was about? Probably not. Read up and then come back.
Yep, sure do.
And those terrorists were Jewish heroes and PMs.
Who was in the King David? Why wasn’t it evacuated? Why was it bombed in the first place?
Lol…..but…but…this was good terrorism……
So, you can’t answer those questions. Put down your haters’ playbook and learn some actual history.
Oh…but it was good terrorism….
They had good reasons to blow up the Britsh hq.
No doubt Bin Laden thought the same
The only one hating anyone here is you and your pals who show a complete and utter hatred to palestinians.
But then you try to justify terrorists so not much more is expected from you.
Wrong!!!
Settlements are all over the West Bank and the Likud charter was to claim the whole of the West Bank.
Palestine was the same Mandate as Syria and Iraq….
I see the Israeli propaganda bots are out after your shenanigans in the past week.
Why do you lie all the time….and why are you a racist?
It was not the same Mandate! There were several mandates, each overseen by a different country. The Mandate for Palestine was for the creation of the Jewish state – period. Your ignorance truly is appalling!
No, they were the same.
Class A Mandates were Palestine, Syria and Iraq.
Your lies have well and truly been exposed.
But that’s what you get when you have someone who defends settlements.
Those are three different Mandates – two held by the British and the other by the French. You forgot Lebanon, which was under the French along with Syria. Now, were you lying, or just ignorant of the facts?
I never even mentioned Lebanon, derpy….
Oh and…..
The United Nations Special Committee on Palestine said the Jewish National Home, which derived from the formulation of Zionist aspirations in the 1897 Basle program has provoked many discussions concerning its meaning, scope and legal character, especially since it had no known legal connotation and there are no precedents in international law for its interpretation. It was used in the Balfour Declaration and in the Mandate, both of which promised the establishment of a “Jewish National Home” without, however, defining its meaning. A statement on “British Policy in Palestine,” issued on 3 June 1922 by the Colonial Office, placed a restrictive construction upon the Balfour Declaration. The statement included “the disappearance or subordination of the Arabic population, language or customs in Palestine” or “the imposition of Jewish nationality upon the inhabitants of Palestine as a whole”, and made it clear that in the eyes of the mandatory Power, the Jewish National Home was to be founded in Palestine and not that Palestine as a whole was to be converted into a Jewish National Home. The Committee noted that the construction, which restricted considerably the scope of the National Home, was made prior to the confirmation of the Mandate by the Council of the League of Nations and was formally accepted at the time by the Executive of the Zionist Organization.[106]
In March 1930, Lord Passfield, the Secretary of State for the Colonies, had written a Cabinet Paper[107] which said:
“In the Balfour Declaration there is no suggestion that the Jews should be accorded a special or favoured position in Palestine as compared with the Arab inhabitants of the country, or that the claims of Palestinians to enjoy self-government (subject to the rendering of administrative advice and assistance by a Mandatory as foreshadowed in Article XXII of the Covenant) should be curtailed in order to facilitate the establishment in Palestine of a National Home for the Jewish people.” … Zionist leaders have not concealed and do not conceal their opposition to the grant of any measure of self-government to the people of Palestine either now or for many years to come. Some of them even go so far as to claim that that provision of Article 2 of the Mandate constitutes a bar to compliance with the demand of the Arabs for any measure of self-government. In view of the provisions of Article XXII of the Covenant and of the promises made to the Arabs on several occasions that claim is inadmissible.”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine
Seems nothing’s changed.
The White Papers were eventually understood for the shameful documens that they are. They had no legal standing and changed nothing as far as the Treaty of Sevres (later subsumed into the Treaty of Lausanne) or the British Mandate for Palestine was concerned.
The White papers were produced after the Arab Uprising because….surprise….surprise….they didn’t want to be part of a Jewish State…..and who were the majority…..
Once again thanks for showing you have no care for democracy at all.
The Mandate for Palestine was a Class A Mandate for the express purpose of creating a Jewish state on all the land from the River to the Sea. The Arabs aren’t even mentioned in it except as non-Jewish residents. So please do keep bringing it up!
Yep I sure will.
Its common knowledge that the British were Zionists eg Balfour and the mandate was made in consultation with Jewish zionists.
Actually the Brits also wanted to give them part of Trans-Jordan.
I wonder why the arabs weren’t happy about that?
Good to see that principles such as democracy dont apply.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com
Palestinian Christians say hi…..
No such thing stunad. Get hit on the head numerous times as a spawn of ??
Lol…..you really can’t help lying can you?
Thanks for showing everyone how stupid you are.
IDF snipers shoot kid in the head…….
https://twitter.com/vic2pal/status/987398532557688835
I’m sure the Israeli bots will tell us why this was such a good thing….
Why was he in the midst of rioters who were throwing molotov cocktails and throwing rocks? He wasn’t deliberately targeting, unless he was engaging in the same behavior. He should have listened to his mother.
Aaaaaaannnnndddd there we have it.
The defender of child killers.
this is what religion does to people.
It causes them to excuse evil.
The IDF are not child-killers. Hamas, however, which puts children on the front lines, is.
They ARE child killers. You can no hide what Israel IS. They are a terrorist state.
We just saw an IDF sniper shoot a kid in the head with live ammunition..
Take your lies somewhere else.
Actually, you saw a kid in the midst of rioters, who may or may not have been throwing molotov cocktails or rocks, or rushing the fence, get shot. As always, Arab film is heavily edited and only shows a part of what was actually taking place. Supposedly, his mother told him to stay home. He should have listened. And, yes, Israel told the Gazans that live ammo would be used. Why the surprise?
The Israelis are investigating it themselves derpy.
And yes we know you like dead Arabs….
I don’t want anyone to die. But the Arabs make that impossible.
LIAR. It is ISRAEL that has NEVER wanted peace. It is ISRAEL that has wanted all the land and every Palestinian dead. The world is awake and we ARE watching. We no longer believe Israeli propaganda. Every day, more and more people are SEEING what Israel IS. A terrorist state. A state that was illegally created by THEFT, TERROR and LIES.
Thats why you support Jewish extremists.
What a pathetic load of offal!
If Israel were trying to commit genocide, or even ethnic cleansing, then they suck at it, because the Arab “Palestinian” population (a group that invented its “ethnic identity” in the 1960’s, to fool western countries into thinking they were native) has been growing faster than most populations on earth, their lifespans have been steadily increasing, child mortality is down, and quality of life has increased since the rebirth of Israel, and particularly since Israel regained sovereignty over Judaea, Samaria, and Gaza. And those improvements have outpaced those in the rest of the region, so you can’t just claim it is general progress.
There is one side in the conflict trying to commit genocide, and proudly boasting of it, but thank the Lord, the “Palestinians” don’t have the military means to carry out their declared intention of wiping out the Jewish people.
Tsk-tsk, Gym Mom, for how wrong ya are…Palestinians are the very ones in the Bible mentioned as Philistines. They did not invent their ethnic identity and are much closer genetically to Hebrew Canaanite Jews than they are to Arabs…
GymMom you seem all too comfortable with dehumanizing an entire group of people – and backing up your evidence with half-truths. I am guessing you don’t know one Palestinian human being in real life. It would behoove you to educate yourself and wake up to what is really happening. Btw dehumanization of your brothers and sisters on this planet is what sets the stage for crimes against humanity. That is what happened in Germany and Rwanda.
Do you know any actual Arabs living in Judea and Samaria? How about IsraelI Arabs who said they would never live in a Palestinian state because they have it too good in Israel. I do have Arab friends, and I hear their stories. Most of the dehumanizing in this conflict comes from the Arabs, not the Jews. In the Arab/Muslim mind, all non-Muslims are slightly less than human. This is one of the main reasons for this conflict – the idea that a subhuman, dhimmi, people would dare to establish its own state on what Muslims consider to be their land by virtue of the fact that they once walked on it! Before forming an opinion, spend some time learning the facts.
Yep…have Christian friends in Ramallah.
They don’t like you either.
You are the one who needs to learn the facts. Re-read your hypocritical comment. As if you know that “In the Arab/Muslim mind, all non-Muslims are slightly less than human.” Maybe you are a racist bigot? You are definitely the the one who is doing the dehumanizing. And you are the problem. You are blind and brainwashed into protecting a societal cancer. I personally know Israelis who have left because they cannot stomach the racism and and hate against Muslims.
Do you know anything about Islam? Have you read the Hamas Covenant and the PLO Charter? I know dozens of Israelis who have stayed and who just want to live in peace. I also know Israeli Arabs who are terrified at the thought of having to live under an Arab/Muslim government such as the PA. The people who are preventing peace, including peace for themselves and their descendants, are the Arabs/Muslims.
Please show where in my comment I dehumanized the Arabs.
Have you read Likud’s charter?
Likud refuses to recognise a Palestinian State.
Lol…you dehumanise Arabs all the time.
Yes I do know about Islam and I have lived in a Muslim neighborhood for 10 years. You are the one who needs to learn the facts. Do you know the civil rights activists in Palestine who are fighting peacefully for the right to be recognized as human beings? No you don’t because they are jailed and you believe propaganda. You can only use Hamas and the PA and your so-called Arab friends as an excuse to justify more hate and violence. The reality is that this problem is not outside yourself. Your humanity has been hijacked. You have to do the work to become conscious and evolve. And if you cannot re-read your previous comment see your own unconscious projection of ‘less than human’ onto an entire race then you are truly blind.
You still haven’t shown what I said that was a “projection of ‘less than human'”. I don’t hate the Arabs, except for what they are doing to my people, and I don’t promote violence. However, since the Arabs use violence against Israel, only violence will stop them.
Since you live in a Muslim neighborhood, and know about Islam, I suggest you read about Hebron in 1929. Those Jews thought the same as you do.
That’s why you support the Occupation of a people who don’t want you there.
Wow, you’re a real hero.
If I turn your statement about the ‘Arab/Muslim mind’ around, does it not sound anti-Semitic and/or racist? “In the [Jewish] mind, all non-[Jews] are slightly less than human. This is one of the main reasons for this conflict…” It certainly casts a negative stereotype on an entire race. I would never say that because it is inaccurate and it represents neither Jews and Muslims – both are diverse groups of human beings with many different perspectives. It is also destructive because sweeping assumptions like this allow us to feel justified in our hate. It dehumanizes the ‘other’ and [erroneously] makes us feel like we know everything. As long as we see the problem outside of ourselves, then we are the problem. It honestly sounds like your humanity has been hijacked or you don’t think you have anything to learn about yourself – as if it is not possible and the only solution now is violence. I highly suggest considering that we all have an enormous amount of evolving to do….
Luvs2dance sit down! Hyperbole queen!
Hyperbole to you only because you have had your humanity stolen. Wake up and evolve. – this problem is not outside of yourself.
You have had your mind and soul stolen by Satan’s Mooozzzzzz Solemns. Put the crack pipe down. The problem is not outside yourself. Projecting again!
The Israeli propaganda bots are out…..
One need not be a bot to disagree with your viewpoint. But that’s always the refuge of the fact-poor – call people names. It’s schoolyard, Trumpie stuff. Surely you can do better.
Lol….it was really quiet here until Israel started shooting Palestinian protestors….
The SS Brown Shirts are crying again…STFU
No wonder you guys killed Rabin?
STFU!
You need to turn in your hater’s manual and get an updated version – everyone knows the truth about the Rabin assassination and how it was condemned by the entire nation. It was one man, not the Israeli people.
Funny, because the only one defending an occupation of a people and systemic taking of their land is you.
GFYS ?
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/85880b8b88f03871f12711595c6d165e8085e414e8a2c94f99de27a600ea37a5.jpg
If you’re going to spread lies, do a little more homework.
The photo you claim was shot in Gaza is in fact Aleppo. It looks like a screenshot from this video at about 1:23:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lzGB0HbbmM
The hills in the distance are a giveaway–the land around Gaza is flat.
That’s just the beginning of what I’ll generously call “factual inaccuracies” in this post.
Yeah, Gaza was worse.
The Israeli bots are out today……
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Syria is much worse, Bones, and you know it. Casualties (deaths) are upward of half million. In Gaza they are a few thousand. Get your facts right before spouting off a load of drivel.
Lol…..our genocide isn’t worse than theirs.
Wake up, moron.
Everyone can see through your pro-Israeli bs.
What’s happening in Gaza isn’t genocide. It’s a predictable response to acts of war against a sovereign nation.
You’re part right…shooting kids is a predictable response from Israel.
Can Palestinians defend themselves from Jews?
The Arabs don’t need to defend themselves – Israel doesn’t attack them. What they do need to do is stop putting children and women at risk in order to score PR points.
Yeah those settlers on the West Bank are just wonderful tourists.
Lying comes natural to you doesn’t it?
You really can’t help yourself.
I beg to differ. I lived there for 18 months and witnessed first hand what happens there.
Must be why you forced my friend out of his house at gunpoint and bulldozed it for a settlement.
Israel doesn’t target children – unlike the Arabs who tunnel under kindergartens to kill children, and blow up birthday parties. Oh, and they break into their houses and slit their throats. But do keep defending them – it shows your true character.
The evidence is there for all to see.
But do keep defending child murderers.
Is this what your religion teaches?
Israel – the light to the nations, has become the symbol of racism, bigotry and religious and ideological zealotry.
Not guilty. The Israeli captain who emptied his rifle into a Palestinian schoolgirl
· Officer ignored warnings that teenager was terrified
· Defence says ‘confirming the kill’ standard practice.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/nov/16/israel2
Israelis celebrate the burning alive of Palestinian children
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0aJQ3996vY
Which one’s you?
Increase the ECT and Haldol.
Nazi propaganda! Your Brown shirt ancestors will be proud. Fakeastinians engage in daily terrorism. Learn the definition genocide? Sit down and STFU
wasnt it the IRGUN who made terrorism
No. Arab terrorism existed centuries before the Irgun, who were fighting for their survival.
Wrong……..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gaMNApYKtU
They’re pretty proud of it.
Troll’s not interested in conversation…
He just hurls shit around.
Yeah thanks for showing your lack of intelligence on this issue.
And no, you can’t bully as like you do Palestinians.
So you can STFU.
The idea that Israel is inflicting on Palestinian Arabs “conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part”
is complete and utter nonsense. The fact is that both within Israel proper and in Judea and Samaria the Arab population has consistently grown since 1948. Furthermore, by virtually every measure (infant mortality, longevity, nutrition, medical care, educational attainment,
literacy, etc.), their quality of life has improved under Israeli administration and generally exceeds that of Arabs elsewhere. This is
borne out by UN statistics, an organization that is hardly pro-Israeli. The UN likes to complain, but when it comes down to it, it concedes that there is no humanitarian crisis even in Gaza, much less in Judea and Samaria. Arab Israeli citizens when polled say that the prefer life in Israel to life anywhere else. Arab residents of East Jerusalem do not favor transfer to “Palestine”.
More Israeli propaganda bots……
The occupation of the West Bank is a good thing……
I note that you don’t dispute the facts. Yes, objectively Arabs in Judea and Samaria are better off than they were under Jordanian rule and better off in most respects than Arabs in other Arab countries. Nobody particularly likes living under occupation, but then 96% of them live in Area A or Area B, which are basically under PA control, so they aren’t subject to most aspects of a typical occupation. If you bother to look at the history, you will find that Jordan invested next to nothing in Judea and Samaria and that improvements in infrastructure, education, health care, etc. came about under Israeli rule. In some respects things have gone backward since the PA took over due to its incompetence, corruption, and priority of destroying Israel over over improving its own society.
Now we have the “but but Jordan” defence……
Israel demolishes infrastructure, leaving Palestinian farmers without water for domestic and agricultural needs
In January and February 2017, Israeli authorities demolished water supply infrastructure in two areas in the West Bank. In the southern West Bank, authorities demolished seven water cisterns used by farmers and shepherds near the Palestinian village of Tuqu’, Bethlehem District, and another cistern in the South Hebron Hills community of Khashm a-Daraj. In the Jordan Valley, authorities demolished a pipe that provided water to Palestinian farming and shepherding communities in the northern Jordan Valley. On 20 February 2017, the Civil Administration once again demolished a section of the pipe, after local residents had restored its hook-up. Israel, which has controlled most water sources in the West Bank since it occupied it nearly fifty years ago, disregards the severe water shortage suffered by Palestinians and promotes projects that can alleviate it only when they involve improvements to settlement infrastructure. At the same time, Israel demolishes every water supply system that Palestinians try to erect themselves in Area C, subjecting them to intolerable living conditions in order to force them out of the area.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-jOM0O4rHU
On 23 Feb. 2017 the Civil Administration demolished a cistern dug several years ago by residents of Khashm a-Daraj-Khashm al-Karem in the South Hebron Hills. While the community is on the water grid, Israel does not permit it to hookup its farmland and the limited supply is insufficient for livestock. As Mustafa al-Faqir told B’Tselem: The sheep now drink the rainwater left in the stream, but it’ll soon dry up and we’ll have to buy water, which is a big expense. Shepherding is our only livelihood. The effort and money we put into the cistern are all lost. Filmed by ‘Eid Hadhalin.
https://www.btselem.org/video/150702#full
The Israeli propaganda bots are VERY active after the poor PR this week.
Nice attempt at diverting the argument from the central point. Again, you do not even attempt to dispute the fact that the Arab population has grown continuously since 1948, that by most objective measures they are better off, and that the Arabs both in Israel proper and in East Jerusalem do not want to live under Palestinian Arab rule.
Instead, you claim that Israel has been mean to some Arabs in Judea and Samaria with regard to water supply. Even if this were true, it would have no impact on the overall picture, which you do not dispute. In any case, if you were to investigate more thoroughly, you would discover that Israel has to prevent illegal and unsystematic well-digging because the acquifer is stressed and must be used carefully. Israel has in fact gone to considerable effort to improve the water supply in Judea and Samaria and to help the Arabs establish proper waste water treatment, largely to no avail since they will not cooperate. (There is plenty of funding – the international aid agencies love to fund this kind of thing.) For an objective, third party treatment of this topic,I suggest that you read the 2012 MA thesis by Lauro Burkart from the Graduate Institute of International and Development Studies in Geneva, which attributes most of the blame to the PA leadership. For a presentation of the Israeli view, see Haim Gvirtzman’s “The Israeli-Palestinian Water Conflict: An Israeli Perspective (Bar Ilan University, 2012), which refutes the criticisms of Israeli water policy.
Is that you Bibi?
The central point being ‘but but Jordan…” and look how wonderful Israel is.
Now the only infrastructure Israel provides to the West Bank is to the Jewish Settlers.
Israel actually controls the amount of water Palestinians receive.
And hospitals are built by foreign NGOs.
” In any case, if you were to investigate more thoroughly, you would discover that Israel has to prevent illegal and unsystematic well-digging because the acquifer is stressed and must be used carefully. ”
Lol…….
Israeli Plan Proposes Supplying Palestinians Less Water Than Allocated to Settlers
Minister Yuval Steinitz rejects ‘unacceptable’ water plan that proposes giving West Bank Palestinians 65 cubic meters per person by 2050, about 40% less than allocated per capita to residents of settlements.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israeli-plan-proposes-supplying-palestinians-less-water-than-allocated-to-settlers-1.5461133
Oh and
Israel passes law to seize private Palestinian land for Jewish settlements
By William BoothUpdated8 February 2017 — 11:18amfirst published 7 February 2017 — 12:21pm
Jerusalem: The Israeli Parliament passed a contentious law late on Monday that allows the state to seize land privately owned by Palestinians in the West Bank and grant the properties to Jewish settlements for their exclusive use.
The measure is designed to protect homes in Jewish settlements, built on private Palestinian property “in good faith or at the state’s instruction” from possible court-ordered evacuation and demolition.
It comes in the wake of a court-ordered forced eviction last week of 40 families living in the Amona settlement. Lawyers with the Israeli human rights group Yesh Din (“There is Law”) successfully argued that the land was owned by Palestinians in the nearby village of Silwad.
The Amona settlers said God had promised the land to the Jews and denied the Arab claims. The Israeli Supreme Court ordered the settlement demolished. It took 3000 police to clear the isolated hilltop of radical youth, who threw excrement, bleach and rocks at the officers.
Thousands of homes in dozens of settlements and outposts may now be protected, at least temporarily. The bill is likely headed for a high court challenge.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu supports the legislation and has told his constituents that no government had done more for the settlers.
Israeli legislators in the opposition condemned the bill as reckless and warned that it would turn the world against Israel while goading prosecutors at the International Criminal Court in The Hague to take action against the Jewish state.
The bill passed on a vote of 60 to 52.
The settlement legalisation measure was pushed forward by Naftali Bennett, the education minister and leader of the Jewish Home party, who opposes granting the Palestinians a state and instead wants to annex to Israel the 60 per cent of the occupied West Bank where the Jewish settlements are located.
Bennett, a religious nationalist, said the bill seeks to “normalise” life for the settlers and allow them to remain in homes that the state has encouraged them to build, while providing roads, water, power and protection by the army.
After the bill passed, Bennett tweeted just one word: “Revolution.”
There are about 400,000 Jews in the West Bank and an additional 200,000 in East Jerusalem living in settlements that most of the world considers illegal. Israel disputes this.
Shuli Moalem-Refaeli, one of the bill’s sponsors, called it “a historic achievement and a strategic event for the settlement movement. It’s another step in normalising the lives of thousands of citizens. The fate of thousands of homes will no longer be dependent on the whims of left-wing organisations.”
The Israeli anti-occupation group Peace Now estimated that more than 3800 homes on 53 illegal outposts could eventually be legalised by the bill, which they claimed “would turn Israeli citizens into thieves”.
A pro-settler advocacy organisation, Regavim, said the number of protected homes was half that.
Reporters in the Knesset, Israel’s parliament, said the most recent revised version of the bill would safeguard homes in 16 settlements but that the justice minister could add to this list.
The law will almost certainly be challenged in the courts by pro-Palestinian groups and human rights activists in Israel who say it upends Israel’s own protections of private property.
Before its passage, Israeli Attorney-General Avichai Mandelblit said the bill violates international law and that he would not defend it before the high court.
Israeli Defence Minister Avigdor Lieberman, who is essentially the military governor of the West Bank and also lives in a settlement, said in the days before the vote: “You don’t have to be a genius to understand that when the attorney-general is opposed to the bill, this means that he is not willing to defend it in the High Court of Justice and that it is an unconstitutional bill, and its chances of being disqualified are 100 per cent.”
https://www.smh.com.au/world/israel-passes-law-to-seize-private-palestinian-land-for-jewish-settlements-20170207-gu75n3.html
But….but…Jordan….
When Israel won the West Bank in 1967, there were 708 Palestinian villages in the region, 4 of which had running water. Four. Today, about 96% of West Bank Palestinians have running water in their home.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/14304
http://www.sixdaywar.org/content/growth.asp
Actually those in Area C (the Israeli Zone) don’t…..eg Susiya village….where the IDF keeps destroying their rainwater cisterns.
Even members of the Israeli government objected to recent changes to give even less water to Palestinians.
That must be embarrassing for you.
Of course they do. Please give a link to a source that proves they don’t! And as to Susiya:
http://jewsdownunder.com/2015/07/23/facts-ignored-the-invention-of-the-village-of-susiya/
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/198541#.VbHqF_mqpBc
http://jewsdownunder.com/2013/12/02/the-israeli-left-and-the-myth-of-palestinian-susiya-an-update/
http://www.israelandstuff.com/susya-palestinian-squatters-in-land-grab-from-israel-financed-by-the-europeans
Is that the best Israeli propaganda you can muster?
Hundreds Of Rabbis Urge Netanyahu Not To Demolish Palestinian Village
Read more: https://forward.com/fast-forward/391861/hundreds-of-rabbis-urge-netanyahu-not-to-demolish-palestinian-village/
It’s illegal for the Arabs to build or dig wells, etc in Area C without a permit. They keep doing it, Israel keeps destroying it. Pretty simple, don’t you think? Do you think Israelis can go into Area A and build? Not only can’t they, but they would be murdered before they had a chance to start digging!
Thanks for pointing out that it is illegal for Palestinians to dig ells on their own land.
Not just wells mind you, but rainwater cisterns…..
Not their land. It’s really not a hard concept to grasp.
Yes it is……
The “March of Return” symbolizes Hamas refusal to acknowledge defeat and until such time that the Arabs accept Israel’s existence as fact, true peace and resolution to the conflict will be impossible. While both sides have committed atrocities you are only furthering the problem by putting all blame on Israel.
What atrocities has Israel committed?
Last I heard it was over half a million Jewish settlers encouraged by the government which had taken up residence in the West bank……
Bones, ya might want to add that the Israeli governments water department also pumps wells dry from Palestinian land then resells some of it back where Palestinians fill their 5 gal tote jugs and haul it back home where they can at least cook and bathe in. The rest goes to the Israelis where they can grow bananas and water their desert yards. Now mind ya, this is a region where water is scarce…
That’s known as the water libel. When Israel took over in 1967, there were 708 Palestinian villages in the region, four of which had running water. Today, about 96% of West Bank Palestinians have running water in their home.
http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2014/02/the-truth-behind-palestinian-water.html#.Vd2qU6gViko
If this is genocide,they sure suck at it. 1.2 million Palestinian Arabs in 1948… over 5 million today. Don’t see how you can call that “genocide.” And I’d say the blame for their situation is multi-pronged. Some blame rightly belongs to Israel, which has been ham-fisted and short-sighted in permitting settlements in provocative locations. But much blame also goes to the Palestinians for refusing to coexist with more than 6 million Jews, for choosing terrible leaders, and for preferring to invest in tunnels rather than build up the institutions of a peaceful functioning state. If the Pals had ever sincerely and seriously adopted Gandhi’s nonviolent techniques, they’d have had their state long ago; Israel couldn’t have withstood international outcry in such a case. But nonviolent protest remains the exception.
“But nonviolent protest remains the exception.”
You mean the way they bulldozed over Rachel Corrie……
Rachel Corrie: REAL Footage of death
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2rb9ey
Israel just waves it’s magic wand and says its ok…..
Bones we get it, you limey stunad! Aldolph is your grandfather and MoreHammad is your pleasure toy.
Rachel Corrie stood in front of a bulldozer where the driver couldn’t see her.
And of course you swallowed that……
No way you WON’T see a person standing in front of a bulldozer.
I just watched the video – there is no way you can draw any kind of conclusion from it – and some of it is highly edited and some looks just plain fake.
erog “I don’t like it – so it’s fake”.
That’s a lie. The bulldozer chased her for 300 yards. Get a moral compass.
He didn’t chase her – he couldn’t see her!
BS……You can see whats in front of you. They’re not blind.
She deserved what befell her.
Thanks for showing the type of despicable human being you are.
Sit down vile limey!
Stfu.
Dear fellow GCTS alumnus,
I have said for decades that what Israel is doing to the Palestinians is exactly what the Nazis did to the Jews.
I hoep people listen to you.
If it was, there would be no Palestinians today.
If you want to discuss whether actual actions were justified and what could be done better, go ahead. Please leave out inflammatory comparisons that don’t advance the conversation.
One thing is left out in your conversation. When organizations like Hezbollah fire rockets into Israelian villages and neighborhood, some reaction is justified. Having said that, as a Republican, I have argued till I was blue in the face to take out the platform plank that binds us to the Israeli defense. The arguments that are used to defend it’s presence? “The Bible says… bless Israel, and I will bless you…”
When I answer with the fact that Israel is no longer God’s favored nation since the ultimate purpose was the Christ-event, I get booed… And when I refer to the fact that, indeed, many of the actions by Israel are reminiscent of Nazi Germany’s actions, well… I might as well get ready for the tar and feather treatment.
Israel (modern) exists because of an international sense of guilt after WWII. The idea that “We have to get the land back, because it USED to belong to Israel,” is as valid as the idea that in the U.S. the land has to be given back to the Indian tribes who are the original owners of the land (Or, for that matter, 2/3 of the world population has to move from where they currently live).
1. G-d is far from finished with the Jewish people. He brought them back to the Land which He gave them in a totally legal way, and has protected them from every assault that has been perpetrated against them since them.
2. None of Israel’s actions in any way resemble Nazi Germany. Where are the work camps? The death camps? The decline of the Arab population by half? When did Germany supply water, electricity, food, building materials, etc to its Jewish population while they were conducting genocide against them.
The Arab population in the territories has continually and significantly increased since 1948 – that is a very poor sort of genocide.
The majority of the original Arab refugees fled in 1948 as a result of their leadership’s promise that all the Jews would be quickly killed and the Arabs could come back and take their homes and property. Only a handful of villages were required to leave during the war – and that was because they were actively attacking Jewish convoys on the road to Jerusalem.
The only people who experienced ethnic cleansing after the ’48 war were the Jews. Jordan murdered and forcibly removed them from Judea and Samaria, including Jerusalem, and the Arab nations expelled over 850,000 after first confiscating their homes and property.
The Arabs in the territories enjoy the highest quality of life of any other Arabs in the region.
https://firstonethrough.wordpress.com/2015/01/04/mad-world-of-palestinian-quality-of-life-statistics/
2. The Jews began returning to their homeland, where they are the indigenous people, in the late 1800’s! The Mandate for Palestine, a Class A Mandate for the creation of the Jewish state, was instituted in 1923 – the Holocaust had nothing to do with it! And the Jews bought every inch of every piece of land that they lived on and worked. The Arabs began pouring into the region because the Jews were creating employment opportunities. Most of the Arabs currently living in the territories have been there at most for three hundred years – Jews have continuously inhabited the land for over 3,500, and have been the majority population in Jerusalem for the past several centuries.
3. If you actually care about the truth, and want to know who you should be accusing of behaving like Nazi Germany, read the Hamas Covenant and the PLO Charter. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem not only supported Hitler and supplied him with Arab troops, but it was he who suggested “The Final Solution”, and asked Hitler to do the same to the Jews of the Middle East.
avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/plocov.asp
http://israelbehindthenews.com/20th-century-cleric-behind-21st-century-hate/16907/?utm_source=wysija&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=ibn-today
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6b9f0723d06e186adf3fde387c9530bfd1ca966b2dc798690c9e06f656565f7b.jpg
Nice try, but this seems to be tertiary source documentation at best.
They all went to Palestine…….where there are over 800 000 settlers in East Jerusalem and the West Bank.
Btw why were Jews forced out of Muslim countries – hint it happened after 1948……
That is a perfect example of the lie and the moral depravity that is Zionism. Legal? Are you learning impaired, or just lacking a moral compass? Can we take your home, destroy your business and crops, and kill your children with impunity?
To whom are you referring? Since none of that happened to the Arabs.
Lol……I know Palestinians that has happened to.
Actually, Jews (Zionists) moved to PALESTINE, a land that had been lived on, worked and owned by PALESTINIANS, who had lived there for centuries.
Simon bar Kochba (And those before him) caused the Romans to totally wipe out whatever was left of a Jewish inhabited land in approx. 125 AD. Between the uprising in 67 AD and bar Kochba’s revolution, all damage possible was don.
Between 125 AD and the late 1800’s there was nothing that was anything like a “homeland” for Jews as a nation. They were assimilated throughout what would become Europe and Russia.They were ‘hunted’ from time to time through the centuries in some of the lands where they lived. Zionism started as a movement to start a religious community in Palestine, and later became more of a political movement.
It was not until after WWII that the rest of the world (UN) that there should be a shared nation. Now, imagine how YOU would feel if your family had owned a section of land for countless generations, and here the British (And the rest of the world) tells you to pack up and go?
God had nothing to do with these events. There was no reason for the rebuilding of a Jewish homeland from God’s perspective. The Law was fulfilled, completed in the death and resurrection of Jesus as the promised blessing for all nations…
Now, as far as the current Israel and their actions against the Palestinians is like the German Nazis against the Jews. Slowly all their possessions were taken. Their land, their stores, their jobs… Are you honestly saying that is NOT happening with Palestinians? If so, you must be blind to the realities of the day! Last week a large number of Palestinians were killed during a non-violent protest. Why?? Why are does Israel keep building villages in occupied territory – encroaching on Palestinians?
Slowly but surely Palestinians are pushed into smaller and smaller areas – wait, does that sound familiar? The word ghettos comes to mind here! Having grown up in Western Europe, I’m quite aware the historical developments. And I see Israelis treating Palestinians more and more the same way as Jews were treated, one step at a time…
1. Until 1964, when Arafat started calling the Arabs in Gaza and Judea and Samaria Palestinians, the only people know by that appellation were the Jews. In 135CE, Roman Emperor Hadrian, in a fit of pique because the Jews had humiliated his army, changed the name of Judea, homeland of the Jews, to Palestine – the Latin transliteration of Philistia, the land of the Philistines, Israel’s ancient enemy. Under the Ottomans and the Mandate, all the inhabitants were called Palestinian as in Palestinian Jew, Palestinian Arab, etc. Palestine was the name of the region. It was never a country under that name.The Arabs hated the term and called themselves Southern Syrians, and the land Southern Syria.
2. The movement of the Jews back to their homeland where they are the indigenous people began in the late 1800’s. And the creation of the state under the Mandate began in 1923. The Holocaust had nothing to do with the creation of the state.
3. The land was so underpopulated under the Ottomans that they brought in Muslims from all over their empire, including Bosnia! When Jordan was created, the British were afraid that there weren’t enough Arabs – no Jews allowed – to maintain the state. Most of the Arabs didn’t even arrive in the region until after the Jews had begun to create jobs for them. Because so many of the Arabs had been in the land for such a short time, the UN had to create a new definition for refugees – those who had lived there for at least two years!
4. None of those things happened to the Arabs. In fact, in Israel’s declaration of independence, all non-Jewish inhabitants are invited to remain and become citizens of the new state. Thousands did, and Israel brought back 100,000 refugees as well. She would have brought in another 100,000 but the Arab League refused to let them come, having figured out the political value of refugees as pawns in the ongoing war to destroy Israel. Today, 20% of Israel’s population is Arab.
5. Prior to the first intifada, the Arabs in the territories enjoyed freedom of movement and trade. Israel helped them build schools, hospitals, universities, and other infrastructure. When Israel won the West Bank in 1967, there were 708 Palestinian villages in the region, four of which had running water. Today, about 96% of West Bank Palestinians have running water in their home.
6. Throwing molotov cocktails, hurling rocks, and shooting guns across the border into Israel is hardly non-violent. Hamas doesn’t care how many of their people die – they just want the publicity and to demonize Israel. Perhaps you didn’t notice the babies and children they brought to their “non-violent” event.
7. The Arabs are not being pushed anywhere. There has not been a new Israeli town built since the 1990’s. Plus, the land doesn’t belong to the Arabs. They have absolutely no legal claim to it.
8. G-d brought the Jews back into the Land He gave them – keeping His promise to restore them. To deny this is to call G-d a liar.
1. BS
Arabs had Palestinian passports…
Not even worth reading the rest.
Mandate passports. Everyone living there had one.
Thanks for proving my point, derpy.
No, it doesn’t. There was no nation called Palestine. It was the Mandate – which was for the creation of the Jewish state. Everyone living there had Palestinian passports – which also said “Eretz Yisrael” – the land of Israel.
Aaaand stamped ‘Palestinian Citizen’.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f83e8e582bcd44eea854f86cdeaefdf5fc0d6c2fb1d3bdc4374ef7a67f8bedee.jpg
It was a Mandate which was to lead to a nation.
Of course the Brits realised their mistake and ended up offering a 2 state solution.
Ffs do you rely think we’re going to fall for your bs.
The British didn’t offer a two-state solution – that was the UN. The Brits created a two-state solution – Israel for the Jews and Jordan for the Arabs. Of course, they gave the Arabs 78% of the land that was supposed to go to the Jews.
The White Paper of 39 was administered by the Brits, derpy.
And what you don’t get, which shows you have no understanding at all of the principles of democracy, is that outside governments cannot enforce their policies on local populations.
We saw what the Jewish extremists did once the Brits started to change their mind.
Actually the 20th Zionist Congress rejected the first proposal…
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5a1a23b2b9efb8a27bc6af2355e4c6cbf7aa42065edc3dc6a696a698aaf865fd.gif
And the UN proposal gave more like 60% of the land to the minority Jewish population. Surprisingly this was accepted by the Zionist congress…….
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c9f710b479b1cea9de074bb9135c295c4af74090485c3b63ca6414b10d89adf8.gif
Land ownership shows who actually owned the land in 1945
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8544faba845bad7e0e2d677cacafbacee7b21fb7c1273356f162c3a54978e052.jpg
Wow…I wonder why Arabs didn’t want to be part of a Jewish State.
Btw how can a country be a Jewish home when the majority of its population aren’t Jews?
It is a mistaken belief that God gave the land BACK to Israel. Again, HIS purpose was fulfilled in the life and death of Jesus.
IF your argument is correct, (:Plus, the land doesn’t belong to the Arabs. They have absolutely no legal claim to it. “), then I suggest that you apply this to all th elands where now conquerors live, they should all leave, and give the land back to the original inhabitants… So, if YOU live in the US, give your property back to the native tribes, whose land you stole. You have no legal right to it.
It’s not mistaken – G-d promised, and He delivered. He is not in any way finished with the Jews. However, the land belongs to the Jews in accordance with international law.
Nope…….
None of that is true.
Israel is a Canaanite tribe.
That’s verified by Jewish Israeli archaeologists.
International law robbed people of their generations-long owned property, and handed it over because of an international sense of guilt. But you don’t assuage that guilt by committing another horrific act such as robbing people of their land.
And BTW – there should have been an international sense of guilt! It was known how Jews were treated in Germany even before Hitler set out to conquer the rest of Europe.
What international law? The Mandate for Palestine had been engaged in creating the Jewish state long before the Holocaust. And the land had never belonged to the Arabs. They had never had a sovereign state there, nor were they indigenous. Even most of the private individuals did not own the land on which they lived. The only international law that was applied here was the Treaty of Lausanne, which replaced the Treaty of Sevres, which divided up the land of the Ottoman Empire.
Everything about Israel is illegal, repulsive, and evil. It is a copy of Nazi Germany. To believe that “G-d gave us this land” is EXACTLY what the Nazis said.
I could not agree more; I have said for years that Israel has lost the moral high ground, and can longer plead “holocaust” when defending their illegal assaults on the Palestinians.
First, Israel never pleads Holocaust. Those words are always put in her mouth by her enemies. Israel responds to Arab violence – she doesn’t initiate it. The Arabs/Muslims have been attacking the Jews since their 7th century invasion. Please read the Hamas Covenant and the PLO Charter to see who it is that espouse violence and plans genocide. Then read the Declaration of the Establishment of State of Israel, and note the clause that invites all non-Jews living in the region to remain and become citizens of the new state. Those Arabs that did, became citizens, and their descendants make up 20% of the Israeli population – all citizens with full rights under the Law.
Have you not heard of the Diaspora? Besides Palestinians are related to Jews.
Have a read of the Likud Charter too…..
Likud calls on Israeli government to annexe Jewish settlements in West Bank
http://www.euronews.com/2018/01/01/likud-calls-on-israeli-government-to-annexe-jewish-settlements-in-west-bank
Palestinians are Arabs, and are related to Jews by one ancient common ancestor. The Likud Charter is not a governing document. The land already belongs to Israel – if she chooses to annex it, that is her prerogative.
Likud is Bibi’s party derpy.
The land clearly doesn’t belong to Israel because you says it does.
There seems to be some inconvenient Palestinians who disagree with you.
Mind you they could annexe the land…… but then Israel wont be a Jewish state.
What really bothers me is that the Christian church thinks because Israel are “God’s chosen people” it basically makes them exempt from any accountability. I’m actually a Jew because my mom was Jewish. But I will not support these violent actions. Christians really need to stop and think before they support Israel. It’s also based in some twisted idea that Jesus will return once Israel is re-established. Once again, religion justifying violence.
Please show one time that Israel acted with violence toward the Arabs when there was no Arab provocation. I think you will be hard put to find one. Israel responds to Arab violence, period. The Arabs/Muslims have been persecuting and murdering the Jews since they first invaded in the 7th century. It has never stopped. And the Jews didn’t even start fighting back until around the turn of the 20th century! The true church must support Israel because G-d supports Israel.
Good grief. Israel came into being via ethnic cleansing of the Arab population.
Cf. Ilan Pappe’s The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine.
And Jeremy R. Hammond’s conclusion:
“Indeed, what happened in Palestine in 1948 was not an ‘alleged’ ethnic cleansing, as Benny Morris would have us believe. It is regrettable that he seems to have decided that trying to justify Israel’s legitimacy as a ‘Jewish state’ is more important than presenting the public with an honest historical representation of how Israel came into existence. But far from being ‘alleged’, the ethnic cleansing of Palestine must today be recognized as an uncontroversial historical fact. That this ethnic cleansing occurred is indeed today very well documented—including in Benny Morris’s own important contributions to the literature on the subject.
“It is also regrettable that the US mainstream media treat the matter as taboo. This silence must be broken. The means by which the ‘Jewish state’ of Israel came into existence—via the ethnic cleansing of the Arab population of Palestine—must be brought out of the darkness and into the light. Only by doing so will the prospects for peace between Israelis and Palestinians have any chance of coming to fruition.”
https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2016/11/14/benny-morriss-untenable-denial-of-the-ethnic-cleansing-of-palestine/
If there was ethnic cleansing then why are there still tens of thousands of Palestinians living there?
Where?
Hundreds of thousands were driven out during the Nakba and are still refused right of return.
Perhaps you can tell me why there are 800,000 Jewish settlers in Palestinian territory.
What ethnic cleansing? Even the Arab leaders agree that they urged the Arabs to leave, telling them they could return in a week or two after the Jews were all dead. And, Pappe? He admits that he lies and ignores facts to feed his bias. In reality, the Jews, in the Declaration of Establish of State of Israel, state the following:
“WE APPEAL – in the very midst of the onslaught launched against us now for months – to the Arab inhabitants of the State of Israel to preserve peace and participate in the upbuilding of the State on the basis of full and equal citizenship and due representation in all its provisional and permanent institutions.
WE EXTEND our hand to all neighbouring states and their peoples in an offer of peace and good neighbourliness, and appeal to them to establish bonds of cooperation and mutual help with the sovereign Jewish people settled in its own land. The State of Israel is prepared to do its share in a common effort for the advancement of the entire Middle East.”
The Arabs who remained, and the 100,000 that were allowed to return (another 100,000 were prevented by the Arab League which had figured out the propaganda value of eternal refugees) are the ancestors of today’s Israeli Arabs, who are represented in every level of Israeli society.
The only people who were ethnically cleansed were the Jews living in Judea and Samaria, including Jerusalem. They were expelled or murdered by the Jordanians who brought their own citizens in to take over Jewish homes and properties. Not to mention the over 800,000 Jews expelled from Arab countries, all their property and assets confiscated.
http://www.ee.bgu.ac.il/~censor/katz-directory/11-03-17the-liar-as-a-hero-about-pappe-by-benny-morris.pdf
http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/foreignpolicy/peace/guide/pages/declaration%20of%20establishment%20of%20state%20of%20israel.aspx
https://www.quora.com/What-was-life-for-a-Jew-living-in-West-Bank-under-Jordanian-occupation-during-1948-1967
https://ir.lawnet.fordham.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=1881&context=ilj
More lies hey.
Well we know not to expect more.
Why did you people kill Yitzhak Rabin?
1948 Palestinian exodus from Lydda and Ramle
Photograph
Refugees leaving Ramle
Date July 1948
Location Lydda, Ramle, and surrounding villages, then part of Mandatory Palestine, now part of Israel
Also known as Lydda death march
Participants Israel Defense Forces, Arab Legion, Arab residents of Lydda and Ramle
Outcome 50,000–70,000 residents fled from, or were expelled by, the IDF
The 1948 Palestinian exodus from Lydda and Ramle, also known as the Lydda Death March,[1][2] was the expulsion of 50,000-70,000[3] Palestinian Arabs when Israeli troops captured the towns in July that year. The military action occurred within the context of the 1948 Arab-Israeli War. The two Arab towns, lying outside the area designated for a Jewish state in the UN Partition Plan of 1947, and inside the area set aside for an Arab state in Palestine,[4][5] subsequently were transformed into predominantly Jewish areas in the new State of Israel, known as Lod and Ramla.[6]
The exodus, constituting ‘the biggest expulsion of the war’,[7] took place at the end of a truce period, when fighting resumed, prompting Israel to try to improve its control over the Jerusalem road and its coastal route which were under pressure from the Jordanian Arab Legion, Egyptian and Palestinian forces. From the Israeli perspective, the conquest of the towns, designed, according to Benny Morris, ‘to induce civilian panic and flight,'[8] averted an Arab threat to Tel Aviv, thwarted an Arab Legion advance by clogging the roads with refugees, forcing the Arab Legion to assume a logistical burden that would undermine its military capacities, and helped demoralize nearby Arab cities.[9][10] On 10 July, Glubb Pasha ordered the defending Arab Legion troops to “make arrangements…for a phony war”.[11] The next day, Ramle surrendered immediately, but the conquest of Lydda took longer and led to an unknown number of deaths; the Palestinian historian Aref al-Aref, the only scholar who tried to draw up a balance sheet for the Palestinian losses, estimated 426 Palestinians died in Lydda on the 12 of July, of which 176 in the mosque and 800 overall in the fighting.[12] Israeli historian Benny Morris suggests up to 450 Palestinians and 9–10 Israeli soldiers died.[13]
Once the Israelis were in control of the towns, an expulsion order signed by Yitzhak Rabin was issued to the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) stating, “1. The inhabitants of Lydda must be expelled quickly without attention to age.…”,[14] Ramle’s residents were bussed out, while the people of Lydda were forced to walk miles during a summer heat wave to the Arab front lines, where the Arab Legion, Transjordan’s British-led army, tried to provide shelter and supplies.[15] A number of the refugees died during the exodus from exhaustion and dehydration, with estimates ranging from a handful to a figure of 500.[16]
The events in Lydda and Ramle accounted for one-tenth of the overall Arab exodus from Palestine, known in the Arab world as al-Nakba (“the catastrophe”). Some scholars, including Ilan Pappé, have characterised what occurred at Lydda and Ramle as ethnic cleansing.[17] Many Jews who came to Israel between 1948 and 1951 settled in the refugees’ empty homes, both because of a housing shortage and as a matter of policy to prevent former residents from reclaiming them.[18].
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_exodus_from_Lydda_and_Ramle
Why are you referring to the tragic death of Yitzhak Rabin as being done by ‘you people’.? It was done by ONE person. That is bad English. How can a whole lot of people be held responsible for the actions of a madman? It is like saying that all white Americans were responsible for killing President Kennedy.
Because Rabin was killed by people like you.
Zionist extremists who saw peace with Palestinians as betrayal.
The people of Lydda and Ramle were not ethnically cleansed. They were combatants attacking convoys on the road to Jerusalem. Several other villages were also evacuated. The perimeters of the Partition plan were moot when the Arabs refused it and fired the first shot. Besides. Res 181 was non-binding, and in violation of the UN Charter.
http://mosaicmagazine.com/essay/2014/07/what-happened-at-lydda/
http://mosaicmagazine.com/response/2014/07/distortion-and-defamation/?print
Are you as outraged by, or even aware of, the ethnic cleansing of the Jews from Judea and Samaria, including part of Jerusalem, by the Jordanians? Jordan imported their own people to live in the vacated homes and to take over the assets of the expelled Jews. These are the same Arabs who claim to have been living there for centuries!
Actually Ramle surrendered straight away.
But do keep posting your fiction.
Once the Israelis were in control of the towns, an expulsion order signed by Yitzhak Rabin was issued to the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) stating, “1. The inhabitants of Lydda must be expelled quickly without attention to age.…”,[14] Ramle’s residents were bussed out, while the people of Lydda were forced to walk miles during a summer heat wave to the Arab front lines, where the Arab Legion, Transjordan’s British-led army, tried to provide shelter and supplies.[15] A number of the refugees died during the exodus from exhaustion and dehydration, with estimates ranging from a handful to a figure of 500.[16]
The events in Lydda and Ramle accounted for one-tenth of the overall Arab exodus from Palestine, known in the Arab world as al-Nakba (“the catastrophe”). Some scholars, including Ilan Pappé, have characterised what occurred at Lydda and Ramle as ethnic cleansing.[17] Many Jews who came to Israel between 1948 and 1951 settled in the refugees’ empty homes, both because of a housing shortage and as a matter of policy to prevent former residents from reclaiming them.[18]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_exodus_from_Lydda_and_Ramle
Already responded to. No one denies the people in these villages were forced to leave, but the reason was military, not ethnic cleansing.
Why do you always respond to something that was never said?
Yep.
That’s why they weren’t allowed back.
Can you not tell the truth at all Bibi?
100,000 Arabs were allowed back. The Arab League prevented another 100,000 from returning.
Bad luck Bibi, but you guys passed the Prevention of Infiltration Law which designated returning Palestinians as ‘infiltrators’…
Apparently all those refugees in Jordan and Lebanon can’t return because the arabs won’t let them.
Gee you write bs.
Nakba Day returns, but not the Palestinians
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In 1995, a journalist interviewed a number of left-wing Israelis living in West Jerusalem homes whose Palestinian owners were expelled in 1948. One (unnamed) “prominent left-winger” was particularly, and directly, unapologetic. “I don’t have any problem with the fact that we threw them out, and we don’t want them back, because we want a Jewish state.”
This Nakba Day, when so many urge the Palestinians to “move on” and stop “living in the past,” we benefit from such frankness. At a time when efforts to dehumanise Palestinians and delegitimise solidarity with them are escalating, we need a reminder of what lies at the heart of the so-called “Israeli-Palestinian” conflict: settler-colonial displacement, and resistance.
During the Nakba (Arabic for catastrophe), around 80 percent of Palestinian towns and villages in what became Israel were emptied and destroyed; 200 of these villages had been occupied and their inhabitants expelled prior to 15 May (when the State of Israel was formally established). Refugees who attempted to return home across the armistice lines were shot dead by Israeli forces.
The ethnic cleansing of Palestine was achieved by direct expulsion, atrocities and fear of atrocities, a “whispering” campaign of intimidation, and, by the Israeli cabinet’s decision to prevent the refugees from returning home at the end of hostilities. By 1952, Israel’s parliament had passed legislation that stripped expelled Palestinians of their land and citizenship. A Jewish majority had been achieved.
What did the Nakba look like? Here are three examples.
Al-Khisas was a village in the very north of Palestine. In December 1947, elite forces of the Haganah “randomly started blowing up houses at the dead of night while occupants were still fast asleep,” killing 10-15 villagers. Israel’s first prime minister, David Ben-Gurion, subsequently included the assault in “a list of successful operations”.
The majority of Al-Khisas’ inhabitants left in May 1948, little did they know never to return; the few who remained were forced onto trucks and expelled by Israeli authorities the following year. The village’s land was given to a new kibbutz; the old emir’s manor house is now a hotel.
Sa’sa’ was a thriving village with a market-place, schools, and a mosque. In February 1948, Haganah forces entered the village at night, meeting no opposition. They blew up homes at random, killing 11 Palestinians, including five small children. Months later, the last villagers were expelled; an Israeli investigation suggested more civilians were killed in the process.
In 1949, kibbutz Sasa was founded on the village’s land (as the kibbutz website acknowledges), whose first “pioneers” were from the USA. One kibbutz resident later reflected how “you could almost feel their [the refugees’] presence, where part of their possessions were left behind, with their storerooms filled with last seasons’ crop.” The mosque was turned into a museum.
A final example, that of al-Majdal. Most of its residents had fled in fear by the time the town was occupied. Remaining Palestinians were “concentrated and sealed off with barbed wire and IDF guards in a small, built-up area commonly known as the ‘ghetto’”. They were finally expelled in October 1950. Al-Majdal is now the Israeli port city of Ashkelon.
The Nakba shapes the present. There are more than two million Palestinian refugees within Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza Strip, including UN-registered refugees displaced in the Nakba, and Palestinian citizens prevented from returning to their lands and properties. The vast majority of refugees, including those in neighbouring countries, live a few dozen miles from their destroyed villages.
Sixty-eight years on, and the level of ignorance and denial concerning the Nakba remains high, especially among Western politicians and opinion-formers. Some dispute the Zionist leadership’s intent, while others describe the ethnic cleansing of 700-800,000 Palestinians as a “tragic consequence of war”. A dwindling few hold on to long-debunked myths about Palestinians leaving on “Arab orders”.
More disturbingly, some acknowledge the record of violent displacement and exclusion, and justify it nonetheless. This position is maintained by “left-wingers” (like the one quoted earlier), as well as by the likes of Israeli premier Menachem Begin’s adviser on Arab affairs: “If we needed this land,” he said, “we confiscated it from the Arabs. We had to create a Jewish state in this country, and we did.”
The Palestinians are not the only indigenous people to have faced the horror of settler colonialism, but for the Palestinians the process of colonisation and conquest has not ended. Land expropriations and displacement continue, whether in Galilee and Naqab/Negev, or in the Jordan Valley and southern Hebron hills. Refugees are in sight of their lands, behind fences and walls.
The return of Palestinian refugees is seen as a “threat” by the Israeli state and its advocates because “it would disrupt the demographics that allow the survival of an ethnocratic regime via democratic means”. Nakba Day is a reminder of how such a regime was established – and the refugees’ return will indeed be at the heart of its transformation into a decolonised democracy of its citizens.
http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/nakba-day-returns-not-palestinians-1548915333
1. The Arab League prevented Arabs from returning between 1948 and 1950. Nothing to do with today. Today, there are an estimated 80.000 actual refugees.
2. Most of the Arabs left because their leadership told them to. They were told they would be coming back after a week or two when all the Jews were dead. There were a few villages that were forced to evacuate because they were being used to attack Jewish convoys on the road to Jerusalem. There was no actual ethnic cleansing, nor were there any atrocities of any proportion (there are always individual acts in a war on both sides). The Arabs did, however, lie about battles such as Deir Yassin, to frighten the Arab population into leaving. They admitted this after the war.
3. Israel is a Jewish state, but 20% of her citizens are non-Jews.
4. What lies at the heart of the Arab-Israeli conflict, which has been going on since the Arab invasion in the 7th century, is the hatred of Jews taught to Arab Muslims with their mother’s milk. Nothing more. The Arabs will not be satisfied until Israel is obliterated and all the Jews are dead. They say so in their governing documents. The Israelis would be satisfied if the Arabs would just stop trying to kill them, and would help them to build a state.
5. The fighting was going on long before the May 15th declaration of independence. Many wealthy Arab families had already left, planning to return when the Jews were dead.
6. Al-Khisas had been selected for a Haganah operation that was cancelled.[9] Leaflets distributed in the village urged the population not to engage in combat:
“If the war will be taken to your place, it will cause massive expulsion of the villagers, with their wives and their children. Those of you who do not wish to come to such a fate, I will tell them: in this war there will be merciless killing, no compassion. If you are not participating in this war, you will not have to leave your houses and villages.”
On the night of 18–19 December 1947, the Palmach conducted a raid on al-Khisas with orders calling for “hitting adult [or the adult] males” and “killing adult [or the adult] males in the palace of the Emir Faur”, which was thought to hide a man responsible for shooting a resident of Kibbutz Ma’ayan Baruch in revenge for the shooting of a Palestinian a few days earlier.[10] They blew up Faur’s house and a neighbouring house, killing many occupants including women and children.[10] According to Ben-Gurion, the raid was unauthorised.[10] Local Jewish leaders and Arab affairs experts had tried to prevent the raid, but had been overridden by Yigal Allon.[10] Afterwards the Political Department of the Jewish Agency criticized the attack and Yosef Sapir of the Defence Committee called for the punishment of those responsible, but no action was taken.[10] Following the raid a large part of the residents left their homes.[10]
The number of dead has been recorded as 10 (5 men, 1 woman and 4 children); however, the report from the Palmach commander recorded 12 dead (7 men, 1 woman and 4 children).[11] David Ben-Gurion issued a denial that the raid had been authorised and issued a public apology, but it was later included by him in a list of successful operations.[12] The Yishuv held a meeting on the 1–2 January to discuss the policy of reprisal operations, the outcome of which was a formulation of guidelines by the Jewish High Command for the conduct and execution of retaliatory raids[13]
The first wave of villagers left the al-Khisas on 11 May 1948. Others left on 25 May 1948. Another 55 villagers remained in their homes and maintained good relations with the Jewish settlements in the area, but were eventually evicted.[14] During the night of 5–6 June 1949, the villagers were forced into trucks and transported to the village of ‘Akbara, south of Safad.[15] Those expelled remained at ‘Akbara for 18 years until agreeing to resettlement in Wadi Hamam. On September 26, 1948, Kibbutz HaGoshrim was established on the village lands of al-Khisas. The kibbutz opened a hotel in the manor house of Emir Faou
7. Sa’sa – what happened there depends completely on who you talk to.
8. Al Majdal – it was always Ashkelon
9. In all other conflicts, the refugees are resettled quickly. In this conflict, the Arab nations have refused to take in the refugees from 1948, and, overall, treat them incredibly badly. They are restricted as to where they can live, what jobs – if any – they are allowed to have, etc. In addition, the descendants of the original refugees are counted as refugees even though they have never lived in the land. In contrast, those Arabs who remained in Israel are full Israeli citizens, and are employed at every level of Israeli society.
10. When the Jews first returned to their land in the late 1800’s, they bought every inch that they lived and worked on. Under the Mandate, all the land from the River to the Sea was given to the Jews, not as private property, but as sovereign territory. However, there was very little private property among the Arabs for several reasons. Most of the land, under the Ottomans, was state land – nobody owned it. Much of the rest of the land was owned by absentee landlords who eventually sold it to the Jews. Most Arabs living in the region were either renters or squatters. After the ’48 war, Israel compensated every valid property claim made by the Arabs. It also set up the Absentee Owners Laws, which gave the former owners time to make a claim. After the deadline, the land reverted to Israel.
11. The Arabs are not the indigenous people – they are indigenous to the Arabian Peninsula. The Jews are the last remaining indigenous people. Genetic studies prove both of these to be true.
12. The Arabs never had, and still do not have, a legal claim to this land. They are motivated by a hatred of the Jews, and have no real interest in a state. Their goal, as stated in the Hamas Covenant and the PLO Charter is to destroy Israel and murder all the Jews.
11. Russian Jews are not indigenous to the Middle East any more than white Americans are indigenous to England.
That’s part of your f***ed up racism.
12. The Arabs owned the vast majority of the land. It was the british who decided to give THEIR land to someone else….who gladly stole it.
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The Hateful Likud Charter Calls for Destruction of Any Palestinian State
Since virtually every comment on Hamas in American media includes the assertion that the group’s Charter rejects Israel’s right to exist, it’s worth noting the following from the Likud Platform of 1999:
a. “The Jordan river will be the permanent eastern border of the State of Israel.”
b. “Jerusalem is the eternal, united capital of the State of Israel and only of Israel.
The government will flatly reject Palestinian proposals to divide Jerusalem”
c. “The Government of Israel flatly rejects the establishment of a Palestinian Arab state west of the Jordan river.”
d. “The Jewish communities in Judea, Samaria and Gaza are the realization of Zionist values. Settlement of the land is a clear expression of the unassailable right of the Jewish people to the Land of Israel and constitutes an important asset in the defense of the vital interests of the State of Israel. The Likud will continue to strengthen and develop these communities and will prevent their uprooting.
https://www.juancole.com/2014/08/charter-destruction-palestinian.html
Skin color has nothing to do with ethnicity. Jews come in all colors. What matters is their DNA which links them all to each other, and to the Southern Levant. It doesn’t matter where they were in the diaspora – they are still Jews. Just like the Arabs who call themselves Palestinians are still Arabs.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3032072/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1274378/
Lol….I said nothing about skin colour derpy.
You’re the only one playing the race card here.
And as I said….a white American is not indigenous to Great Britain…..in which case maybe I’ll just go back and claim a part of Ireland as my own. Because DNA.
“Russian Jews are not indigenous to the Middle East any more than white Americans are indigenous to England.”
SETTLEMENT OF THE OCCUPIED TERRITORIES:
THEORY AND PRACTICE
The outcome of the political debate concerning the territories that had been occupied after the 1967 hostilities was two concrete proposals formulated by the ministers Allon and Dayan. In rough outline, the Allon plan provided for an Arab enclave on the West Bank of the Jordan which would be linked with Jordan by corridor extending from the district of Ramallah to the town of Jericho and the Allenby Bridge. The enclave reserved for Palestinians in the Allon plan would be bounded on the east by the Jewish settlements in a part of the West Bank over which Israel would exercise national sovereignty.35/ The special feature of this plan, according to its author, is that it makes the Jordan a political boundary, thus giving the State of Israel a certain advantage from the security point of view.
The plan put forward by the then Minister of Foreign Affairs, on the other hand, provided for the gradual integration 36/ of the Palestinian populations of the West Bank and Gaza in the life of Israel through the daily contacts they would have with its inhabitants. In order to facilitate such contacts, the author of this plan envisaged the construction of a road and railway network to be shared by the Israeli and Palestinian populations. That would mean that such a network, which would have its nerve centre in Israeli territory, would form a link between Israel and the occupied territories and would, at the same time, encourage the establishment of industrial enterprises and social and economic facilities that would be managed by Israelis.37/ The plan, known also as the integrationist plan, did not rule out the establishment of Jewish settlements in the occupied territories, as the Allon plan did. The policy on the establishment of Jewish settlements will therefore emerge from the debate between the advocates of the Judenstaat and Eretz Israel, on the one hand, and the integrationists and annexationists, on the other. Whatever their ideas about the future of the occupied territories, most of the Israeli political groups of this period agreed that there should be a Jewish presence in part or all of the territories under military occupation. And, in addition to the Israeli defence forces, this presence would involve the establishment of Jewish settlements in the occupied territories; this is what was envisaged by the State bodies, and it had the support of the Israeli public.
established either on Palestinian lands from which the owners had fled as a result of the 1967 War or on common lands. In Jerusalem and Hebron, land was requisitioned for the construction of the Jewish quarters. In the Jordan Valley and around Kfar-Etzion, some of the local farmers’ land was also requisitioned. Another method was also employed which gave rise to protests in Israel. In January 1972, the army expelled 6,000 Bedouin from where they had been living for decades,44/ in the north-east of Sinai, in the Rafah salient. It demolished their houses, stopped up their wells and enclosed the area (about 4,000 hectares) with barbed wire, all with a view to establishing a Jewish settlement there.
The October War did not prevent the expulsion of a thousand other Bedouin from their land (3,600 hectares) in the same area or the destruction of their dwelling.45/ The operation was carried out on 8 October 1973.
In March 1972, the authorities employed other means when the inhabitants of the village of Akraba refused to leave their land, which had been requisitioned by a decree of the military government of the West Bank: Piper Cub aircraft were used to spray the land with a chemical that destroyed the entire crop. The land was placed at the disposal of the new settlement of Nahal Gitt later in the year.
It is estimated that the Labour government decided on and facilitated the establishment of more than ninety Jewish settlements, twenty-two in the Gaza District and Sinai, thirty-six on the West Bank of the Jordan and about a
dozen residential quarters in the eastern sector of Jerusalem (see Annex II).46/
The present government of Israel is credited with officially recognizing the three settlements that already existed in the West Bank, Kaddum, Offra and Ma’ale Adumin. 47/ It is to be noted that religious groups like Gush Emunim sometimes establish settlements without any prior authorization from the State authorities who, for their part, continue to apply the policy of Jewish settlement in the occupied territories regardless of the objections of the international community.
Although Mr. Begin’s government has done no more than continue the policy of establishing Jewish settlements in the occupied territories laid down by the Mapai authorities, it is nevertheless true that this policy has the approval of the present government, which has even broadened it.
A committee has been set up whose main task is to apply the Israeli Government’s Jewish settlement policy; it will henceforward be concerned with the management of the existing settlements.48/ Mr. Ariel Sharon, the chairman of this committee, who is the Minister of Agriculture, is reported to have announced a plan for the Jewish settlement of the occupied territories covering a period of about twenty years under which two million Israeli Jews could be absorbed. 49/
CONCLUSIONS
The acquisition of land and other property in Palestine by Jews has been discussed in the preceding chapters. Prior to the military operations of 1948 and 1967, the land had been acquired by the traditional market methods, but these were subsequently replaced by less orthodox methods and the Palestinians’ abandoned land and other property was simply seized by the Jews. For instance, after the military operations of 1948, the military occupation authorities took emergency and other measures to seize the Palestinians’ lands and property. These measures, which have been described in detail in the foregoing chapters, all have the same characteristic: they are always taken for “security reasons”. Subsequently, and particularly after these measures came into force, the State felt it had to justify the acts resulting from the application of these measures.
In order to do so, it enacted a series of laws, the most important of which – the Land Acquisition Law – enabled it to give a legal character to all the abuses arising out of the emergency and other measures taken by the military authorities. The Land Acquisition Law also authorized the State of Israel to take over abandoned land and property, which had not been the practice before this law was enacted.
This law, of which the State is the main beneficiary since it owns most of the land and other real property in Palestine, was subsequently to facilitate the direct intervention of the State in the administration and management of the land and other real property owned by the Palestinians.
Once the land and property had been acquired thanks to the Land Acquisition Law, this intervention of the State was to continue under the guise of the establishment of Jewish settlements.
Obviously, the State had to develop the land it had taken over and prevent bankruptcies; and so it introduced the policy of establishing settlements that would be State-run.
Like the steps taken or envisaged by the Israeli authorities to change the status, the geographical nature and the demographic composition of the occupied territories, this policy has been a matter of constant concern to the international community, which, in a resolution adopted on 28 October 1977, called upon the Government of Israel to “desist forthwith from taking any action which would result in changing the legal status, geographical nature or demographic composition of the Arab territories … including Jerusalem”.51/
This United Nations injunction had no effect, and the policy of establishing Jewish settlements in the occupied territories broadened in scope daily. A recent extension is the authorization to establish a new settlement near Nablus, in the West Bank given to a group of militants by Mr. Begin’s government.52/ This authorization also permits them to confiscate land belonging to Palestinians. This act on the part of the Government of Israel is only one link in a chain of measures going back to the cessation of hostilities in 1948 which has clearly led to the establishment of Jewish settlements in the occupied territories and to the Palestinians being dispossessed of their land and property.
In the view of the international community, such measures are invalid since they are contrary to the letter and the spirit of Aritcies 49 and 53 of the Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War.
It is estimated that about eighty Jewish settlements, with a population of between 5,000 and 6,000 inhabitants, have been established in the West Bank since the end of the military operations of 1967.53/
These settlements, and their raison d’être, which varies according to the analyst, have not been such as to promote good relations between Jews and Palestinians. In some cases they have even contributed to a deterioration of these relations in which, owing to the occupation, there are anomalies which the Palestinian Arabs refuse to accept. The Palestinian Arab populations have always refused to allow the future to be dictated or controlled by elements outside the organic whole they constitute. And there has never been a case recorded in history of passive resistance to colonization. Such resistance is justified in the case of the Palestinian populations, particularly as the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people were recognized by the United Nations General Assembly in its resolution 2535 S (ES-VII) of 10 December 1969. These rights, including the right of self-determination, give the Palestinian people the psychological and physical strength to take their future into their own hands. In doing so and in opposing or resisting settlement, the Palestinians have to face the extremely harsh measures taken against them by the occupying power, which is anxious to reduce if not destroy all such resistance.
It is a well-known fact that the methods and practices of the occupying power are harsh and excessive and that they sometimes go as far as systematic repression.54/ And the Israeli authorities who continue to be the occupying power in the Arab and Palestinian territories are also guilty of this practice, which is that of all colonial and occupying powers. By its very nature, occupation involves repression.
https://unispal.un.org/DPA/DPR/unispal.nsf/181c4bf00c44e5fd85256cef0073c426/7d094ff80ff004f085256dc200680a27?OpenDocument
https://unispal.un.org/DPA/DPR/unispal.nsf/9a798adbf322aff38525617b006d88d7/e0b719e95e3b494885256f9a005ab90a?OpenDocument&Highlight=0,absentee
Fun fact:
Arab ownership disappeared overnight.
In its Village Statistics, 4/ the Mandatory Power estimates the total area of land owned by Jews in 1945 to be 1,491,699 dunams, compared with about 13 million dunams owned by Arabs in Palestine.
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So who took the land????
“It is estimated that between 15 May 1948 and the end of 1951 more than 684,000 Jewish immigrants settled in Israel on a substantial part of the land abandoned by the Palestinians.”
Oh yeah…………………………………………they simply took over the 700 000 who were expelled or fled…..
Aaanannnnddddd
“Of the 370 Jewish settlements established between 1948 and the beginning of 1953, 350 were established on land abandoned by the Palestinians.19/ In 1954 more than one-third of Israel’s Jewish population, plus 250,000 new Jewish immigrants, settled in whole cities that had been completely deserted by the Palestinians as a result of the military operations of 1948. Jaffa, Acre, Lydda, Ramleh and Beisan were some of them. As to the Palestinian Arabs who had remained in Israel, restrictive measures amounting to dispossession were taken by the Custodian of Absentee Property, who was inclined to interpret the Absentee Property Law of 1950 rather too broadly. The custodian, who was responsible for applying the March 1950 Law governing the management and administration of land and property that was supposed to have been abandoned by the Palestinians, subsequently transferred responsibility for the management of this property to another institution, the Development Authority, which had been established under a new law, the Development Authority Law. Under this law, the Development Authority was empowered to acquire land and property from the Custodian and make them available to the State. The State, which thus became the owner of the so-called “abandoned” land and property, was entitled to dispose of them as it saw fit. In the majority of cases, the State put this so-called “abandoned” property up for sale or leased it. This had the advantage of indirectly giving the authorities of the Provisional Government of Israel the right to inspect the management and administration of the “abandoned” land and property. Until then, what was done with this property had been a matter of indifference to the State of Israel, an indifference which enabled the Jewish agricultural communities, the Kibbutzim, to seize land owned by Palestinians during the months immediately after the military operations of 1948.”
Everyone was a Palestinian. The Palestinian Jews owned their land. The Palestinian Arabs, for the most part, rented or squatted on their land. The majority of the land was state land – no private ownership.
10. Lol….
ACQUISITION OF LAND
IN PALESTINE
In its Village Statistics, 4/ the Mandatory Power estimates the total area of land owned by Jews in 1945 to be 1,491,699 dunams, compared with about 13 million dunams owned by Arabs in Palestine.
This disparity between the Arab and Jewish populations with respect to land ownership disappeared after the military operations of 1948, when land and whole villages belonging to Palestinian Arabs fell into the hands of the State of Israel and its inhabitants.
THE MILITARY OPERATIONS
OF 1948 AND THE DYNAMICS
OF LAND ACQUISITION
One of the features of the State of Israel is that its boundaries have never been fixed……..
After the military operations of 1948 and before the signing of the Armistice Agreements, the State of Israel had taken over the sub-districts of Jaffa, Ramleh, Haifa, Nazareth, Beisan and Tiberias and a substantial part of those of Acre and Safad. The Jewish forces were also occupying the coastal area of the sub-district of Tulkarm and the western sector of Jerusalem. Thus, about 20 million dunams of land in all, 7/ including some of the land reserved for the Arabs in the 1947 partition plan, that is to say, just over three-quarters of all the land in Palestine, came under the control of the military forces of the State of Israel.
The military occupation of Arab-owned lands started in the first few months of 1948 and was stepped up in April of that year, when whole towns like Beisan, Jaffa, Acre, Lydda and Ramleh and the Arab sections of the towns of Haifa, Safad and Jerusalem were taken over by the Haganah forces.8/ In May of the same year – 1948 – in view of the enormous number of Palestinians that had been driven from their land and property by the military operations, the United Nations appointed a Mediator, one of whose main tasks was to promote the well-being of the inhabitants of Palestine with the aid of the United Nations specialized agencies. In December of the same year, the United Nations General Assembly adopted resolution 194 (III), the operative part of which called upon the Provisional Government of Israel to permit and facilitate the return of the Palestinians to their homes, their land and their property.
By the same resolution, the United Nations General Assembly established a Conciliation Commission, one of whose main tasks was to assist in securing the implementation of resolution 194 (III). Another of the Commission’s tasks was to achieve conciliation between the different parties to the conflict and to facilitate the return of the Palestinian Arabs to their homes, their land and their property. The Conciliation Commission made efforts to mediate over a period of years, the last of these efforts being made in 1951 (Paris Conference), but it was not successful in achieving a solution that would be acceptable to all the parties to the conflict. And so about 700,000 9/ Palestinian Arabs were forced to live away from their homeland, the only exceptions being a few thousand Arabs who were authorized by the Israeli authorities to rejoin their families in Israel.
Although there is disagreement about the actual area of the land abandoned by the Palestinians, all the analysts agree that it is between 16 and 20 million dunams in area. 10/ In the Negev, for instance, somewhat more than 12 million dunams,11/ fell into the hands of the Israeli authorities. And despite the controversy about it, the analysts all agree also that more than 4 million dunams of the land abandoned by the Palestinians is fertile and very favourable to agriculture and that it is the private property of Palestinian Arabs.
THE DYNAMICS OF THE
ACQUISITION OF LAND AND PROPERTY
Following the military operations of 1948, the 1949 Armistice Agreements were signed by the different parties to the conflict. Those Agreements were submitted to the Security Council for appraisal in August 1949, and in its resolution 73 (1949) the Council noted that the Armistice Agreements constituted “an important step toward the establishment of permanent peace in Palestine”.
Although at that time the intentions of the Provisional Government of Israel could not be stated with any certainty or clearly defined, during the negotiations under the auspices of the Conciliation Commission it had always adduced security reasons 14/ for opposing the return of the Palestine “refugees” to their homes and property. There is one incontrovertible fact, however: after the signing of the Armistice Agreements, the territory reserved for Palestinians under resolution 181 (II) of 29 November 1947 was under the control and administration of Israel, Jordan and Egypt.
Under the Armistice Agreements, 15/ the sub-districts of Jaffa, Ramleh, Haifa, Nazareth, Beisan and Tiberias and quite a large part of the sub-districts of Acre and Safad were under the military occupation of the Israeli authorities. The western sector of Jerusalem and the coastal areas of the province of Tulkarm were also occupied by Israel. This means that a total area of 20 million dunams 16/ of land belonging to the Palestinian Arabs was under the Israeli military occupation.
The de facto acquisition of land in the above-mentioned districts under Israeli military occupation was all the easier because there was no precise legislation governing the management of land abandoned by the Arabs. It was not until 1950 that the Knesset (the Israeli Parliament) adopted laws which were supposed to legalize the de facto acquisition of land 17/ that had been the practice up to then. The institutions responsible for the management of land abandoned by the Palestinians, such as the Custodian of Absentee Property and the Jewish National Foundation, which had been improvising measures of expediency for acquiring the Palestinians’ abandoned land, found a justification for the measures they had taken with respect to the use of this land in the Absentee Property Law of March 1950.
It is estimated that between 15 May 1948 and the end of 1951 more than 684,000 Jewish immigrants settled in Israel on a substantial part of the land abandoned by the Palestinians.18/
Of the 370 Jewish settlements established between 1948 and the beginning of 1953, 350 were established on land abandoned by the Palestinians.19/ In 1954 more than one-third of Israel’s Jewish population, plus 250,000 new Jewish immigrants, settled in whole cities that had been completely deserted by the Palestinians as a result of the military operations of 1948. Jaffa, Acre, Lydda, Ramleh and Beisan were some of them. As to the Palestinian Arabs who had remained in Israel, restrictive measures amounting to dispossession were taken by the Custodian of Absentee Property, who was inclined to interpret the Absentee Property Law of 1950 rather too broadly. The custodian, who was responsible for applying the March 1950 Law governing the management and administration of land and property that was supposed to have been abandoned by the Palestinians, subsequently transferred responsibility for the management of this property to another institution, the Development Authority, which had been established under a new law, the Development Authority Law. Under this law, the Development Authority was empowered to acquire land and property from the Custodian and make them available to the State. The State, which thus became the owner of the so-called “abandoned” land and property, was entitled to dispose of them as it saw fit. In the majority of cases, the State put this so-called “abandoned” property up for sale or leased it. This had the advantage of indirectly giving the authorities of the Provisional Government of Israel the right to inspect the management and administration of the “abandoned” land and property. Until then, what was done with this property had been a matter of indifference to the State of Israel, an indifference which enabled the Jewish agricultural communities, the Kibbutzim, to seize land owned by Palestinians during the months immediately after the military operations of 1948.
It would appear that the Provisional Government of Israel felt its attitude was justified by the fact that the mediation efforts of the Conciliation Commission were continuing and were centred on paragraph 11 of resolution 194 (III), dealing with the repatriation of the Palestinians and the return of their property. By the beginning of 1952, it was practically certain that the land and property of the hundreds of thousands of Palestinians on whom the United Nations had conferred the status of refugees would never be returned to them. This is confirmed by the report of the Conciliation Commission, on which the General Assembly adopted its resolution 512 (VI), which clearly showed that the efforts of the Conciliation Commission were not leading to any solution that would restore their land and property to the Palestinians. The State and the Parliament of Israel had now taken over responsibility for the land and property formerly managed and administered by the military authorities. Under an agreement between the Custodian and the Development Authority signed on 29 September 1953, the Development Authority took over most of the “abandoned” land and property. The Development Authority, which then took over the functions of the Custodian, was entitled to issue title deeds for the “abandoned” land and property and, in certain cases, could decide they should be sold. In most cases, the State of Israel was given preference by the Development Authority where purchases were concerned.
In 1953, the Knesset (the Israeli Parliament) enacted a new law, the Land Acquisition Law (Validation of Acts and Compensation), the purpose of which was to permit the final disposal of the “abandoned” Palestinian land and property. Under this law, the entire question of the land, property and goods abandoned by the Palestinians after the military operations of 1948 could be finally liquidated. And after the Israeli memorandum to the Conciliation Commission of 9 October 1953 informing it that the disposal of property had been authorized by the Government of Israel and effected in accordance with the provisions of the Absentee Property Law of 1950, it was not difficult to see what the Israeli authorities intended to do with the abandoned property. The new law gave legal sanction to the acts and measures that had already been taken to dispossess the Palestinians of their so-called “abandoned” property. By virtue of the powers it conferred on the Minister of Finance, the title deeds for the “abandoned” land and property could be transferred to the State of Israel through the Development Authority. The State thus became the legal owner of most of the property the Palestinians were supposed to have abandoned. The outstanding feature of this law compared with the two earlier ones – the Absentee Property Law and the Development Authority Law – was that it gave the State priority over any other institution as far as the management and administration of the land and property abandoned by the Palestinians was concerned. From that time forward, the State was the legal owner of most of the abandoned land and property, and it could avail itself of the new laws to justify any expropriation of Palestinian-owned real estate. In a debate in the Knesset (the Israeli Parliament), the Minister of Finance explained the implications of the new law as follows:
“To legalize certain actions taken during and after the war. … And when the authorities started to take possession of absentees’ property that had been earmarked for essential security or development requirements, other areas were expropriated for the same purpose. Basically, in agricultural areas the ownership rights were not sufficiently clear and there are reasons connected with the security of the State and the execution of essential development projects which make it impossible to return these lands to their owners.”
Because of the broad legal powers it gives the State authorities, particularly the Minister of Finance, the Land Acquisition Law is one of the most important legal acts of the Israeli Knesset. 23/ Henceforth, the Israeli authorities – particularly the State through the Land Acquisition Law – alone are responsible for the real estate abandoned by the Palestinians after the military operations of 1948.
Thus, it took three years, during which plans and measures were worked out, for the State of Israel to take permanent possession of the land and property belonging to the Palestinians, and they, in the meantime, had become the responsibility of the international community. The continuing good offices of the United Nations Conciliation Commission, which strove without success to mediate, are apparently the explanation for the reluctance of the State of Israel to do anything whatever about the dispossession of the Palestinians who had fled from their land as a result of the military operations of 1948. Some transitional measures had, however, been taken by the military authorities that were responsible for the administration of the land that had fallen into the hands of Haganah after the military operations of 1948. For instance, the military administrators had adopted measures and issued ordinances to take over land and property abandoned by the Palestinians, mainly on the ground of “reasons connected with security and defence”. The first of these ordinances – the Abandoned Areas Ordinance – was intended mainly to authorize the various actions to despoil the Palestinians of their property, including their land, and to co-ordinate these actions.
Another series of measures taken by the military authorities in 1948 – the Defence Regulations – empower the military government to declare specific parts of the occupied territories closed areas. These areas,which the public was forbidden to enter for “security reasons”, are vast and mainly in the public domain. This ordinance, which is modelled on the special legislation in force under the Mandate, could sometimes be interpreted too broadly and used to prevent Palestinians who wished to do so from returning to their villages after the military operations of 1948. Article 25 of this ordinance, which makes the military government the only authority, was invoked in February 1950 to expel 24/ the inhabitants of Al-Ghabisya, in Galilee, whose village had been declared a. closed area. Several other villages, mostly in Galilee, which include Amqa, Faradiya, Karf-Inan, Suffuriya, Al Manusra and Al-Majdal, were declared prohibited areas 25/ under Defence Regulations (Security). Another measure of no less importance taken by the Israeli authorities in the occupied territories after the military operations of 1948 is the Emergency Regulations (Security Zones), adopted in 1949. This ordinance gives the Minister of Defence, with the approval of the foreign affairs and security committees of the Knesset, the power to declare any area a protected area. The areas covered by this measure lay mostly in frontier areas near the borders with Syria and Lebanon. 26/ The whole area of the Triangle in the central portion of Israel, which is populated mainly by Palestinian Arabs, was declared a security zone, which meant that the inhabitants could not return to it without a permit. And the permits, which are issued by the Minister of Defence, are practically unobtainable. Several areas of the Gaza Strip and in the region between Jaffa and Jerusalem have been declared security zones in this way.27/
Of course, areas that are declared security zones eventually become state property. In this connexion, let us mention the example of the inhabitants of the district of Igrit, in Galilee, near the Lebanese frontier, who were expelled from their village in 1948 never to return despite the ruling of the Supreme Court in their favour in 1951.
A fourth ordinance adopted by the military authorities in 1949 following the 1948 military operations was the Emergency Regulations (Cultivation of Waste Lands).
The immediate purpose of this ordinance was to prevent land suitable for agriculture that had been deserted by its owners after the hositlities of 1948 from falling into disuse, and it authorized the Minister of Agriculture to take over the hand and make it pay. Article 24 of this ordinance empowered the Minister of Agriculture to legalize the de facto acts of expropriation which occured during and immediately after the 1948 war, for which the Jewish agricultural organizations and the youth organizations of the Kibbutzim and the Nahal were mainly responsible. The Emergency Regulations also authorized the Minister of Finance – i.e., the State -“to take over lands that had been declared closed areas by the military authorities under the defence and security ordinances provided for in the Defence Regulations.
And so, when lands belonging to Palestinians (living either in or away from their villages) which had been declared closed areas or security zones under the military government’s defence and security ordinances remained uncultivated for a certain period of time, they were handed over to the Ministers of Finance and Agriculture for development purposes.
Another ordinance adopted by the Israeli military authorities after the 1948 war was the Emergency Land Requisition Law. Under this ordinance on the requisitioning of land, adopted in 1949, the Israeli authorities could order buildings belonging to Palestinians to be assigned to Jewish immigrants, who numbered, as stated above, some 700,000 immediately after the military operations of 1948 – 1949. This ordinance, which was originally intended to remain in force for only three years and applied mainly to urban areas, was extended from 1949 to 1958, when the military authorities decided, for “security reasons”, to confiscate some of the buildings that had been requisitioned under the ordinance.
ORIGIN AND AIM OF THE
POLICY OF JEWISH SETTLEMENTS
The first Jewish settlements were established in the years preceding or immediately following the First World War, when Jews were immigrating into Palestine. It must be noted, however, that this immigration was linked to the concept of a “Jewish homeland in Palestine” contained in the declaration made by Lord Balfour in 1917 and to the social and political events that were taking place in the countries of Europe prior to the Soviet Revolution of October 1917. However, although the Arab people of Palestine naturally objected to and strongly opposed this immigration, it was not tied up with dispossessing the Palestinians of their land and other property, as was the case after the military operations of 1948 and 1967. The picture of the acquisition by Jews of land and property in Palestine after the hostilities of 1948 outlined in this study reveals that there were three main stages in the process of dispossession. During the first of these stages, which followed immediately on the 1948 hostilities, the Jewish population illegally seized land and property belonging to the Palestinians. The dominant feature of the second stage is the military ordinances sanctioning the de facto acquisitions of land and property by the Kibbutzim and other Jewish organizations and authorizing the requisitioning of land and other property on grounds of security and defence.
The third stage is characterized by the increasing intervention of the State in the acquisition of the so-called “abandoned” Palestinian property through such legal formalities as those provided by the Land Acquisition Law of 1953.
It is estimated that more than 684,000 Jewish immigrants 33/ settled in Palestine in the years immediately following the military operations of 1948 and that most of them took advantage of the practical measures and of the existing legislation to take over the land and other property belonging to the Palestinians.
The main feature of this period is the complete absence of any direct action by the State that would indicate practical and rational use of the Palestinians’ abandoned land and other property, which enabled agricultural youth organizations and religious groups to take it over. However, Israel was more concerned at this time with finding ways of taking over the Palestinians’ property which would preserve its credibility. Credibility might become essential because of the negotiations between the parties to the conflict which were proceeding under United Nations auspices.
It is not until 1967 that it is possible to detect several different currents of ideas about the Jewish settlements and the use that should be made of the property seized by the Israeli authorities after the 1967 hostilities. Two of these currents are significant and they continue to underlie Israel’s political life. One is Eretz Israel, which is concerned with the territorial imperatives of the Jewish State, and the other is the Judenstaat, which is concerned with its demographic composition. The partisans of the former see no objection to the occupied territories being incorporated in the State of Israel and forming an integral part of it. These people, who are also known as annexationists, mainly belong to the Gahal, a political group which includes the Herut party of the present Prime Minister. The others, who are concerned with the demographic composition of the Jewish state, favour a policy that would lead to a state with a mainly Jewish population. For the advocates of this idea, the incorporation or annexation of the territories occupied by Israel would pose the problem of integrating the 1,600,000 Palestinians, most of whom live in the West Bank and Gaza to say nothing of the few hundred thousand who live in Israel. The advocates of the Judenstaat argue that, since population growth is greater among the Palestinians, the Jewish State would eventually have an Arab majority; they are therefore opposed to annexation, but they do not absolutely reject any idea of incorporating some pieces of territory in the State of Israel.
The advocates of this school of thought are drawn from the ranks of the Israeli Labour Party – Mapai – and particularly from Mapam, a political group belonging to the Mapai coalition.
It is from the debate between the two that any political formula for the future of the occupied territories must emerge. The political debate between the supporters of Erets Israel and, the Judenstaat has not been entirely productive since it has led to proposals regarding the occupied territories. These are the plans proposed by the ministers Allon and Dayan who were members of Mr. Eschkol’s Labour Government. 34/
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1. Israel passed the Prevention of Infiltration Law in 1954 which enabled them to shoot returning Palestinians on sight.
2. This makes it plain that the source of the expulsion was Israeli massacres
Nakba: Why did Israeli historians whitewash an artillery attack?
https://972mag.com/why-did-israeli-historians-whitewash-a-short-artillery-attack/15232/
Yossef Nahmani, a JNF official who came to plunder – err, sorry, “redeem” – the lands of the village of Tsaftsaf in the north. Nahmani described the massacre that took place there as follows: “The atrocities of our soldiers in Tsaftsaf after they entered it, the village and the men raised a white flag, they gathered the men apart and the women apart… tied the hands of fifty to sixty falaheen and shot them and killed them and buried them in one pit, and also raped some of the women… In ‘Ilabun and Pharadiya, the soldiers were welcomed with white flags and great feasts, and after that they ordered the villagers to leave, with their women and children. When they started saying this was against the promises and the pamphlets, they opened fire and after 30 people were killed, they began leading the others on the road to Miron.” When Nahmani asked himself where the Jewish warriors had learned to be so cruel, like the Nazis – Jews like to think of themselves as “merciful sons of the merciful” – he gives himself a harsh answer: “They learned from them.” The RH Tadmor and Segal would probably classify Nahmani as a dangerous anti-Zionist.
3. Palestine is an Arab state…..The vast majority of it are Arabs. Also the vast majority in 1948 were Arabs.
4. Lol, now we’re going back in time and flat out picking bs propaganda.. Actually Muslims protected Jews from Christians. In fact in the First Crusade Muslims and Jews fought Christians side by side. They were both slaughtered. Actually some Jews thrived under the Ottomans until the onset of Jewish and Arab Nationalism eg Istanbul hadd 44 synagogues with 30 000 Jews and many of the Jews expelled from Christian Spain found homes in the Ottoman Empire which included their own schools and courts.
5. Of course it had already started…. …This outlines an Israeli bombardment on a market place in Haifa which led to mass panic.
April 22, 1948
An excellent Haaretz article (Hebrew) makes it clear the flight began after the Hagana shelled, on April 22, 1948, Haifa’s market square, after the Palestinians asked for a ceasefire. The shelling killed at least 10 Palestinians – the exact number is unknown. The dead were, according to reports, refugees seeking shelter, not fighters, and the shelling was considered to be the response of the Hagana to the cease-fire request, and led to massive flight.
Hagana historian, Sadoq Eshel, who described the incident as follows “When we received the information, the commander of the support weapons company, Ehud Almog, was ordered to use the three-inch mortars, positioned near the Rothschild Hospital, and shell the market square. And indeed, a large crowd squeezed into the market square. When the shelling began, and shells fell into it, a great scare happened. The crowd broke into the harbour, and pushing aside the policemen who guarded the gate, charged into the boat and began fleeing the city. During all that day, the mortars kept shelling the city alternately, and the panic among the enemy turned into collapse.”
6. Yep…killed and evicted…never to return…well done….
“The first wave of villagers left the al-Khisas on 11 May 1948. Others left on 25 May 1948. Another 55 villagers remained in their homes and maintained good relations with the Jewish settlements in the area, but were eventually evicted.[14] During the night of 5–6 June 1949, the villagers were forced into trucks and transported to the village of ‘Akbara, south of Safad.[15] Those expelled remained at ‘Akbara for 18 years until agreeing to resettlement in Wadi Hamam. On September 26, 1948, Kibbutz HaGoshrim was established on the village lands of al-Khisas. The kibbutz opened a hotel in the manor house of Emir Faou”.
7..Well even the Israelis acknowledged something happened. Obviously you can’t though, because you’re an Israeli shill……
“Northern Command OC Moshe Carmel later reported that he had seen evidence of killings, and an official investigation by Major Emanuel Yalan suggested that some villagers, including cripples, may have been killed after the village was occupied. However, the relevant files remain closed to historians.”
Funny that….
8.Lol Al-Majdal is derived form the ancient city of Magdala (Mary Magdalene)….Do learn some facts…..
9. And they wanted to go back to their villages….guess what….they can’t.
Maybe that’s why GOD put the Jewish people back in their land of Israel…
Maybe it didn’t…..
Party’s over man. Just sayin. Sorry it had to end this way.
Yeah that 50 year occupation is going well…..if you’re a Jewish settler….
50 year? Obviously you can’t count either.
Lol….not only do you know sfa about history, you know sfa about maths.
Didnt the Scots love being ruled by the English?
NO! It is not religion justifying violence!! It is humans abusing religion to justify violence. A world of difference…
You hit it on the head.
If Israel is presently attempting genocide against the Palestinian people, then by the exact same criteria, Palestinians and other Arabs have been attempting genocide against Israel for three-quarters of a century.
If Israel were attempting genocide, there would be no Palestinians. Instead, their population continues to grow year by year, Israel supplies them with water and electricity, treats their sick in Israeli hospitals for free, and, up until recently, ignored the tens of thousands of rockets shot at Israeli civilians over the past 14 years. Pretty poor way to conduct a genocide.
Aaand the Palestinians are supposed to ignore settlements and occupation of their land……
Actually Israel takes water from the West Bank….
Not their land. That’s the crux of the matter – the big Arab lie. It is not their land, it was never their land. They are not indigenous, and most of them have only lived there a few centuries, not thousands of years. None of them have lived there thousands of years! Many of them were imported by Jordan in 1948 to live in the homes of the Jews who had been ethnically cleansed or murdered.
Legally, in accordance with the Geneva Conventions, there is no occupation. Israel voluntarily treats the situation as if it were, which actually protects the Arabs.
The water belongs to Israel, and the Arabs get more than their fair share. The Arabs also dump raw sewage into the water supply.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/14524#.Uv7zds5vuOG
“Not their land.”
They were living there in Bethlehem, Hebron, Jerusalem, Ramallah……for centuries.
I mean the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem has only been around since the 4th -5th century CE.
Your propaganda is just that. Complete and utter BS.
Oh and Settlements contravene the Geneva Convention as does the military occupation of the West Bank.
As for water…..
“6. The water regime of the Israeli occupation in the West Bank
Following the 1967 Six-Day War Israel initiated its occupation of the Palestinian territory and
swiftly imposed military orders to achieve ultimate control over land and water resources. These
orders dissolved the legal system that existed before 1967 which consisted of Ottoman, British,
Jordanian (in the West Bank) and Egyptian (in Gaza) laws. Military Order 92, issued on 15 August
1967, granted complete authority over all water related issues in the oPt to the Israeli army.
19 December 1968 annulled all land and water-related arrangements which existed prior to Israel’s
occupation of the West Bank (Amnesty International, 2009). Today, the administration of
water resources in the West Bank is under Israeli control with almost 2000 military orders and
proclamations forming the foundations of the occupation (Glavany, 2011). Military orders only
apply to Palestinians and they do not affect Israeli settlers who are subject to Israeli civilian
law.
6.1. Water restrictions and demolitions in Area C
Following the 1995 Oslo Accords, the West Bank (excluding East Jerusalem) was divided into
of the PA; Area B was placed under PA civil administration but Israeli security control; and Area
C which covers the Jordan Valley region, settlements and their surrounding areas, remained
under full Israeli control relating to issues of security, planning and zoning. This division was only
of negotiations in 2000, approximately 36 percent of the West Bank had been categorized
as Areas A and B, with an additional 3 percent of land reserved as national parks. This left 61
percent of the West Bank as Area C where 150,000 people live; approximately 18,500 live in
small, sedentary villages, and 27,500 reside in Bedouin and other herding communities (UN
OCHA, 2011). Figure 6 illustrates the division of the West Bank and the geopolitical landscape
over planning and zoning in Area C remains with Israel. As explained in section 4.2, Israel has
complete control over all water resource planning, development and access in 61 percent of the
West Bank.
This is a long, bureaucratic procedure and often results in
permission being denied, even if the project is approved by the JWC (see section 4.2). Projects
executed without prior approval are demolished by the Israeli military. Recently there has been
173 water sanitation and hygiene structures including 57 rainwater collection cisterns, 40
community wells, irrigation equipment vital for food production and at least 20 toilets and sinks
(EWASH, 2012a). This has affected an estimated 14,937 people (UN OCHA, 2012a). Palestinian
water structures that have been destroyed include storage and rainwater cisterns, wells, springs,
water tanks and agricultural ponds. Some of these structures were demolished under the
pretext that they were constructed without obtaining the relevant Israeli permit, but many were
demolished without reason. This aggressive policy is intentionally restricting, displacing and
particular strategic interest to Israel, usually for the expansion of Israeli settlements and related
infrastructure.
This has been the case for Susiya village in the South Hebron Hills. Susiya, like other villages
in the South Hebron Hills, is not connected to the piped water network and the villagers rely
on cisterns to harvest rainwater and store the water they purchase from tankers. In February
2011 two vital rainwater harvesting cisterns were demolished by the Israeli army. In May 2011
the Israeli army demolished them again following there repair by villagers (ARIJ, 2011). Susiya
village is reliant on these type of cisterns due to a dire water shortage in the area, a result of
army on the movement of Palestinians in the area, requiring long detours for water tankers and
increasing costs; and frequent attacks by Israeli settlers on the villagers and their property,
damaging and restricting access to water cisterns around the village.
6.2. Israeli settlements
Israel carries out a policy of territorial expansion that aims to appropriate land and water
activity in the West Bank. Settlements are Jewish communities that Israel has established
beyond the Green Line on land occupied since the 1967 Six-Day War. The Government of Israel
has invested, and continues to invest heavily in settlement construction, expansion and defense.
Settlement construction and expansion in the West Bank is considered illegal under international
in the West Bank with a combined population of 300,000. The annual population growth of the
West Bank settler population has been approximately 5 percent in recent years, as opposed to
that support a population of 6,000 settlers (B’Tselem, 2010a)
permission but receive support and assistance from Israeli Government ministries. In 2011 the
illegal outposts (Peace Now, 2011). In April 2012 the Government of Israel legalized the status
of 3 settlement outposts in the West Bank, a decision that was widely condemned by the PA and
the international community (Haaretz, 2012).
In order to supply water to the settlements Israel has developed wells in the West Bank (largely
in the Jordan Valley), and a water network that is linked into the Israeli national network. The
settlements are consuming an estimated 44 MCM of water (World Bank, 2009) and Glavany
(2011) argues that Israeli settlers in the West Bank use more water than the 2.4 million
Palestinians.
In recent years water springs in the vicinity of Israeli settlements throughout the West Bank have
become the target of settler activities that eliminated, or put at risk, the access to these springs
56 such springs, the large majority of which are located in Area C on land parcels recorded by the
Israeli Civil Administration as privately owned by Palestinians. Thirty of these springs were found
to be under full settler control, with no Palestinian access to the area. In almost three quarters
(22) of these Palestinians have been deterred from accessing the spring by acts of intimidation,
threats and violence perpetrated by Israeli settlers. In the remaining eight springs under full
settler control, Palestinian access has been prevented by physical obstacles, including the fencing
of the spring area, its de facto annexation to the settlement (four cases), the isolation of the
area from the rest of the West Bank by the Separation Wall (see section 6.3) and its subsequent
designation as a closed military zone (four cases). The other 26 springs are at risk of a settler
takeover. This category includes springs that have became the target of regular tour –
ism activities of settlers, and/or patrolling by the security coordinators of settlements (OCHA,
2012b)
security of Palestinians living in affected communities. Many farmers have been forced to either
cease cultivating the land or face a reduction in productivity. This also has increased the expenditure
for herders and households who are forced to purchase piped or tankered water.
Many springs, and related water infrastructure, that are utilized by Palestinians are also subject
to malicious attacks and vandalism from settlers. For example, settlers from the Yitzhar
settlement have repeatedly damaged the Al Sh’ara spring and the water pipe which carries
water to the Palestinian village of Madama. Settlers have also dumped raw sewage, diapers and
chicken carcasses into the spring in order to contaminate it. In February 2010, the spring was
storage tank ran dry in the spring of 2010. In April 2011, water pipes were ag”
http://www.arij.org/files/admin/latestnews/water.pdf
It has been much longer than that.
One side has been far more effective.
possibly more effective to make the case for the enslavement of Palestinians by the modern-western nation of Israel? For genocide, they would need yet cut them all off rather than continue feeding them via employment. The continued existence of Palestinians (such as they are) remains in the interest of Israel. Without them, Israel would no longer be under petty siege or serving a maternal roll outside its borders (such as the US has become so fond in doing). Western loyalty to westernized Israel has moved beyond religion and well into the territory of shared national ideals & objectives.
I do agree that genocide has been practiced against the Jews for centuries by many nations. And I do agree that the Jewish people are vengeful. I know that you are highly educated on these topics and I am less so, but it seems to me that as long as the Jews think that Israel, and any land that they think is part of Israel, was given to them by God, we will not see a change.
You obviously rode the short bus.
Please know that I do not agree with genocide regardless of a person’s belief.
Remember, that the vast majority of the world’s Jews are NOT, NOT Zionists. Zionism is genocidal, violent, racist and evil. Israel is exactly the same as what Nazi Germany was. Israel will perish just the same as Nazi Germany perished, for the same reasons and the same evils.
The term ‘Zionist’ is just a term of abuse. It is constantly used to cover the clear racism and anti-Semitism that exists in the jihadi-apologists’ minds. Silly Lilly is so dense that she has interchanged the word with the prediction ‘Israel will perish’. It is time to confront these racist clowns once and for all.
Derpy, zionism is a Jewish term eg prior to the creation of the State of Israel, Jews had a Zionist Congress.
How stupid are you?
But thanks for exposing your hatred of Palestinians.
Notice Lily how it simply throws insults around. I guess there’s a quota system?
Munster STFU ?
Which saint is that?
All the Jews living in Israel are Zionists – even the ones who protest the State – they just think the timing was wrong! That’s about half the Jews in the world. Virtually all the rest, with some exceptions on the Left, are also Zionists. But you don’t know what Zionism is – you just find it convenient so that you don’t have to say that what you really object to is the Jews themselves!
Zionism is the belief that the Jew have a right to self-determination in their own homeland where they are the indigenous people. That’s it. Nothing genocidal, violent, racist, or evil. Now, if you’re looking for those things, please read the Hamas Covenant and the PLO Charter with their plans for the destruction of Israel and the genocide of the Jews. You should find yourself right at home there.
Hamas = racist. Their covenant says that the Jews are descendants of pigs and apes and should b driven into the sea. (They are right on the latter claim, mind you – all humanity is).
Extremist Jews celebrate a Palestinian baby being burned alive ….
https://youtu.be/dfkd0r1yY10
These are the people you support.
“All the Jews living in Israel are Zionists”
Except the ones who aren’t….
Anti-Zionists Thrive in Israel, Why Not in the U.S.?
“And yet in Israel, despite an undeniable shift to the right in mainstream political attitudes over the last decade or so, there are secular, native-born Israeli Jews who do not believe in Zionism as a political ideology, or in the idea of a state that is defined as a home for the Jews rather than as a place that treats all citizens equally. Some of those non-Zionist Jews sit in the Knesset — like Dov Khenin, who is a member of the Arab-Jewish socialist Hadash party.”
https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2016/04/04/is-anti-zionism-anti-semitism/anti-zionists-thrive-in-israel-why-not-in-the-us
Zionism is the belief in a first and foremost Jewish homeland…..
Tell me why Israel doesn’t just subsume the whole of the Palestinian Territories???
Because it would no longer be a Jewish State.
That’s why Bibi rejects a Two State AND a One State Solution.
So Palestinians are essentially stateless because of the whims of a foreign country which doesn’t want them.
Which foreign country? You clearly are confused. People who claim to be Palestinians are living in Syria, Lebanon, Jordan and all over the Middle East. They speak Arabic and are no different from the other Arabs.
Ramallah isnt in Syria, dopey.
Are you a complete moron?
The Arabs in the territories are stateless because Jordan took away their Jordanian citizenship! And they are living on Israeli land. The Arabs have never had sovereignty over this land.
If those people were truly not Zionists, they wouldn’t be living in Israel!
Might be why Muslims and Christians had Palestinian passports…..
How can they have a passport of a state that doesn’t exist?
They did.
So the problem is with your version of fiction.
Everybody who lived under the Mandate had Palestinian passports! That was the name of the Mandate! Once the Jews declared independence, the name changed to Israel, and then everyone became Israelis – not Palestinians. The Arabs living in the land illegally occupied by Jordan and Egypt didn’t start calling themselves Palestinians until 1964 at Arafat’s insistence. Prior to that, they hated the term because they knew it had always referred only to the Jews!
You people can’t help but lie can you?
After getting roasted about every Jew in israel being a Zionist you want another arse kicking.
Muslims and Christians in Mandatory Palestine were Palestinian citizens……
Palestine never existed. It is a fantasy invented by the millionaire, Arafat, in 1964.
Lol.
One shrill says Paledtine doesnt exist yhen another shrill says it did but only for the Jews.
You’re a moron.
Bt hows that Scottish vote for independence going?
You know the one you deny for Palestinians, hypocritical merkin..
Of the Mandate.
Stamped Palestinian Citizen……
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From the Mandate. Jews had the same passport. Everybody in the Mandate had the same passport! Note the Hebrew.
Aaaaannnndddd all were stamped Palestinian citizens.
Once again. The Palestinian people are there. That is a fact.
Are you going to just force them out to make this fake biblical land?
Citizens of the Mandate – you know, the one to create the Jewish state!
Israel belongs to the Jews according to international law – doesn’t matter what you believe about the bible.
Nobody is forcing them out. Let them make peace, and then they can live in peace.
They were Citizens of Palestine.
In fact the passports clearly belong to Arabs.
Yeah , Israel doesn’t have 800 000 settlers on Palestinian land.
Your mind tricks won’t work.
Look carefully. See the Hebrew? Passports were for all those living in the Mandate, not just Arabs. And, as soon as the Mandate ended, so did the passports.
Look carefully….they were Arab citizens of Palestine.
You are seriously mentally unstable
Which would make me eminently more intelligent than you.
Edwin is right. You need treatment for that obsession and blind hatred you have.
Its weird because the only people hating anyone here are you Israeli bots.
Maybe they should partition Scotland and give it to Israel.
Warning.
Paid, Israeli Internet Trolls have taken over this discussion. Notice how they think exactly like Nazis? Notice the lies? Notice the complete lack of a moral compass?
Where is the Islamists of Hamas’s moral compass?
Hmmmmm…
And yet Jewish extremists assassinated their own PM.
Do you really want to go down the ‘my extremists are better than yours’ road?
A..Jewish..extremist…shot the Israeli PM. It was one nutter. And nobody is my extremist> I am from Scotland which is in northern Europe. I have absolutely no connection to Israel or Judaism or Zionism, I just think the Israelis have achieved an incredible amount in their 70 year existence. It is a first world country, it has a standard of living far superior to any of the mostly chaotic states that surround it and still manages to perform economically much better, considering their lack of resources.
The nearly million settlers living in East Jerusalem and the West Bank aren’t tourists, derpy.
They are nearly all to a man, extremists of the same ilk as your mate who assassinated Rabin.
Like you actually.
Which is weird considering how much Scotland fought against English rule.
You would think you would have empathy for a people being ruled by a government they do not want.
Now if Israel is a first world democracy, it should bloody well act like one.
First world countries do NOT go around stealing land which belongs to other people and transplanting their own populations. That’s called colonialism.
In fact, that’s what Nazi Germany did.
So you just hate Palestinians because they exist.
Your anti-Israel stance is well noted and you are entitle to that opinion.
Comparing Israel and the American Indian is a false premise. History has recorder that the modern State of Israel was created by law not occupation. The American Indian comparison’s are just liberal anti-USA gibberish. The two have nothing in common.
Your anti-Palestinian stance is well noted…..
Israel’s Defense Ministry reports that in one week in March of 2018,
2,728 trucks entered the Gaza Strip from Israel, carrying 74,202 tons
of supplies, including 87 tons of medical supplies, 15 tons of
agricultural products, 1,506 tons of food supplies, and 51,044 tons of
building supplies.
Another week
this year, the Defense Ministry reported 1,712 trucks entering Gaza,
carrying 49,166 tons of supplies, including 43 tons of medical supplies,
92 tons of agricultural products, 5,426 tons of food supplies, and
31,356 tons of building supplies.
In one single day in February,
11,485 tons of goods, in 379 trucks, entered Gaza through Israel,
according to the Israeli Defense Ministry. On another February day,
12,295 tons of goods in 431 trucks entered Gaza through Israel,
according to the Israeli Defense Ministry.
In addition, Israel supplies electricity to Gaza via ten power lines. And Israel supplies water to Gaza via two pipelines.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kq0YuTzjN9U
Israeli army vows disciplinary action over Gaza sniper vid
“Remarking on the video on Tuesday, Israeli Defence Minister Avigdor Lieberman told reporters: “The Gaza sniper deserves a decoration, and the photographer a demerit.””
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-army-disciplinary-action-gaza-sniper-palestinian-1.4612678
‘Appears to’ ? That means there is an element of doubt. You really are demented.
You’re right.
The sniper shot him for standing there.
Good point.
Thanks for showing how much Israel cares about Palestinians.
He should have gotten you Nazi
Israeli policy is so nazi so stop calling those who see things differently nazi, but you are excuse as yr moral intelligence is none existent
If Israel were like Nazi Germany, there would be no Arabs left. In reality, their population continues to grow and they have the highest quality of life of any Arabs in the ME. Just like the Nazis treated the Jews – not.
Sounds familiar….
40 Holocaust survivors condemn ‘massacre’ of Palestinians, call for BDS against Israel
“It’s a shame Hitler didn’t finish the job,” one Israeli named Asher Solomon said, while another, Katy Morali, added that “Holocaust survivors who think like this are invited to go die in the gas chambers.”
http://mondoweiss.net/2014/08/holocaust-survivors-palestinians/
Thanks again for showing everyone the type of people we’re dealing with.
Limey your mental illness is most obvious! Bazi try posting something factual and do buy a dictionary! Pathetic people like you don’t deserve to be heard. Go suck on a big bone.
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Israel is the occupying force are you saying the Palestinians should be grateful
I just watched a german film and all the jews was talking abut was fleeing to PALESTINA
The homeland of the Jews! Learn some history before commenting.
How many of these people great grand parents were born in yr fake homeland ?
It doesn’t matter where they were in the diaspora, they are still genetically linked to all other Jews and to the Southern Levant, the home of ancient and modern Israel. The Arabs are genetically linked to the Arabian Peninsula. They didn’t arrive in the region until the 7th century and they came as invaders.
Hmmmm people using race to define who lives in a country……
I wonder who tried that?
I just watched a film that said you are an imbecile.
Is that not better than being an apologist for genocide
Prove that a genocide has taken place. Simple math – are there fewer Arabs today than in 1948?
There are more settlers in the Occupied Territories and that is growing…..
I see the Israeli propaganda bots are out in force.
Let’s hear from people who are actually there…..
Donald Trump is not our saviour: A Palestinian priest’s perspective on Trump and Middle Eastern Christianity
As the Trump Administration has announced its recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, the US Ambassador to Israel David Friedman decided to use the Holy Sepulcher to make a political point in support of Israel’s control over the city.
He wished Christians a Happy Easter while tweeting that it was ‘encouraging to see religions coming together, flourishing, in Jerusalem’. Only a few days later he was silent when defenseless Palestinians were being killed for peacefully demonstrating in Gaza. This only confirms that his Easter tweet aimed at misleading the reality of the Israeli occupation.
The ‘March of Return’ that took place in Gaza is linked to the marking of 70 years of the Nakba. It is impossible to talk about the situation of Christians in the Holy Land without mentioning what happened in 1948 to dozens of Palestinian parishes, whose communities were expelled and never allowed to return. In 1948 Jerusalem had a population of about 31,000 Christians. Many of them became refugees during the Nakba and today the number has been decreased to less than 10,000.
After the Israeli occupation of East Jerusalem in 1967, the city began to be separated from the rest of the country. The surrounding Christian communities, such as Ramallah, Bethlehem, Jericho and Al Izzariya (Bethany), have been cut off from the city by a network of settlements, checkpoints, walls and other movement restrictions. This, in addition to several policies such as ID Revocations and denial of family reunifications, has pushed thousands of Palestinians out of the city, including many Christians, severely affecting our social fabric.
In order to enter Jerusalem, Palestinians need special military-issued permits. It has been noted how Palestinian Christians from Gaza under the age of 55 were banned from celebrating Easter in Jerusalem, only about 80 kilometers from their homes. As a Palestinian priest, the only way that I have to reach the Church of the Holy Sepulcher is through one of those permits. By obtaining one, it does not mean that one could necessarily do things like driving or sleeping over. In the case of Easter, obtaining a permit doesn’t necessarily mean joy: crossing the Qalandia or the Bethlehem 300 checkpoints is a humiliating experience. Once inside, we are treated just like any other Palestinian.
Just a few days ago, young members of my community, alongside their families, were celebrating with joy the Palm Sunday procession when they were harassed, insulted and physically assaulted by Israeli Forces, detaining three young Palestinian Christians. They were not involved in any act of violence. Rather, they had raised a Palestinian flag, just like dozens of pilgrim groups were raising their national flags. The Israeli Police managed to turn the joy of Palm Sunday into a trauma for our children. This, unfortunately, was not an isolated case. We have seen how year after year there are more acts of discrimination against Palestinian Christians celebrating Easter in Jerusalem, including during Palm Sunday, Good Friday procession and the Holy Fire Saturday, known in Arabic as Sabt il Nour.
The US Administration, represented by Mr Friedman, has encouraged the Israeli Government to advance their policies against the rights of the Palestinian people, and particularly against the Palestinian presence in Jerusalem. Both Christians and Muslims suffer the consequences of this.
Instead of endorsing policies of coexistence and inclusivity that reaffirm the need to exercise equal rights in the city for Muslims, Christians and Jews, President Trump and his team have decided to encourage policies of discrimination and exclusivity by those who refer to Jerusalem as the ‘eternal and indivisible capital of Israel’.
By ‘taking Jerusalem off the table’, as President Trump said, the US is not making any favour for the cause of a just and lasting peace. Let us be clear: President Trump didn’t change anything on the ground. What he did though, was to tell the peoples of the region, and particularly to the Christian communities, that the US Administration cares very little about their fate. All parties have to respect the special inclusive identity of Jerusalem; it cannot and should not be under the sovereignty of one part or one religion. Equal rights to all should be respected.
As Mr Friedman talked about ‘flourishing religions’ in Jerusalem, I doubt that he can tell the difference between local Christians and foreign pilgrims, as he considers all Christians to be outsiders in the ‘eternal capital of Israel’. Christianity is not foreign to this land, certainly not to Jerusalem.
We have been living here for centuries and we refuse all policies aimed at making us foreign aliens in our land. Our percentage may have decreased since 1948, but we are the ‘salt of this earth’. Whoever cares about the situation of Christians in the Middle East, and particularly in Palestine, rather than encouraging unjust policies, should take concrete measures for freedom, justice, equality and dignity to be restored to all the inhabitants of the Holy Land. This is the only way for peace.
Fr. Jamal Khader is the parish priest of the Holy Family Roman Catholic (Latin) Church in Ramallah, a Palestinian city in the West Bank. He is the former rector of the Latin Patriarchate of Jerusalem Seminary as well as Dean of Arts of Bethlehem University.
https://www.christiantoday.com/amp/donald-trump-is-not-our-saviour-a-palestinian-priests-perspective-on-trump-and-middle-eastern-christianity/128077.htm?__twitter_impression=tru
Press photographer Ahmad Abu Hussein shot by IDF for…….
Who turns out to be on the Hamas payroll and who is a drone operator! Do a little digging before blindly accepting whatever Hamas claims.
And you expect anyone to believe anything you say…….Like Palestinian drones are dangerous. Really? You expect anyone to believe that? Is that the best you could muster?
I suppose the camera guy was really operatingan rpg
“On April 6, Yasser Murtaga, a 30-year-old cameraman from Gaza city, was shot dead by Israeli troops east of the southern Gaza town of Khan Younis while he was filming for a local news and TV production company.”
I find it interesting that you think that is a justified reason for shooting someone even if remotely true.
It shows you really are an extremist.
That’s why people like you killed Rabin. And justify terrorism.
Have any Palestinians done more than burn tires and throw rocks near the fence?
Fired rifles, thrown molotov cocktails, attempted multiples crossings of a sovereign border.
Which sovereign border are you speaking of? The border between Palestine and Israel that Israel respects so dutifully? That border?
Israel totally respects the border. It is Hamas who fires over it and tunnels under it.
That’s why the IDF patrols the west Bank….
Credible proof please …
http://www.businessinsider.com/hamas-terrorist-organization-israel-gaza-protests-2018-4
https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel/diplomacy-defense/171951-180410-palestinian-journalist-killed-in-gaza-was-a-hamas-activist-report
Thanks
Matt, that flag was pretty threatening to the State of Israel.
https://twitter.com/GreatReturnMa/status/984104962048319488
I certainly agree that Israel´s response is out of order, but I also think that not every Palestinian on or near the fence had non-violent intentions.
Well if it’s a Jewish settler doing that in Palestine that’s ok…..
Not in my book …
Palestinians throwing rocks=security concern. ..Arrest children…shoot to kill….
Jewish settlers throwing rocks= meh……it’s only at Arabs…..
Soldiers stand by as settlers pelt Palestinians with rocks
Footage shows IDF soldiers standing idly by as masked settlers hurl stones at Palestinian farmers, human rights activists following fire started by one farmer near West Bank village of Burin; 1 activist injured, fire subdued by Israeli forces; multiple clashes between settlers, Arabs over last 2 weeks as olive harvest winds down.
https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5044292,00.html
If you could drown your hate for a moment would you let your child/children go out and put themselves in danger by firing stones and things at a professional army? Most decent people would want to protect their child.
If you could drown your hate for a moment would you shoot a child for throwing stones?
Oh and why do you think Palestinians hate Israel?
And that includes Palestinian Christians which you openly despise as well.
Well done for deflecting from the issue.
Palestinians kids throwing rocks = security concern.
Jewish settlers throwing rocks = meh.
And you wonder why people see you as such a hateful hypocritical troll.
I’m sure the Scots just bent over and just let the English f*** them in the arse.
Please go stand still somewhere and let people throw rocks at you and your family. Then answer your own question.
Please just let people steal YOUR land and force you and your family out.
Oh you only like doing that to others.
Merkin!
And that’s why Israel supported Hamas….
BLOWBACK: HOW ISRAEL WENT FROM HELPING CREATE HAMAS TO BOMBING IT
https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/
Oh and Israel defending its borders from Palestinians standing around…..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=Kq0YuTzjN9U
And you wonder why Palestinians hate Israel……
Israel supporting Hamas when it was posing as a community organizing group. As such, it did seem like a better choice than Fatah. Obviously, that changed.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/07/30/how-israel-helped-create-hamas/?utm_term=.d7df866b670d
Lol…..yep.
The principal of divide and conquer.
We’ll raise up the monster to attack us and then we’ll blame the Palestinians for it.
F***ing idiots!
Standing around? Get out and work and you won’t get in trouble.
Lol….poor Jimmy’s totally unhinged now….
Once again shows he knows f*** all about the Palestinian side.
Just go out and get a job……..and Israel will take their settlers away…..
Is that all Arabs can do, riot and cause chaos? Can they not just build their country to make it better instead of destroying everything?
Is that all Israelis can do?
Dispossess people of their land to create an ethno-religious state?
And it wasn’t Arabs which destroyed Gaza derpy.
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hahahaha worst genocide ever, the only genocide even in which the victims population grew exponentially lmao
The Palestinian people’s elected representative, Arafat, refused a 2-state solution because it didn’t include all of Jerusalem for them. They were offered EVERYTHING else they demanded. Unheard of in geopolitical negotiations. He threw it all away over a city that he knew Israel would never let go of.
Now they continue to elect Hamas to lead them. Hamas takes the building materials sent by Israel for hospitals and schools and instead builds terror tunnels. They hide their weapons in schools and residential buildings. They are cowards and thieves, and not true partners for peace.
Derpaderp
The Palestinians have refused any state offer that:
Divides them between West Bank and Gaza. Or whenever West Bank was included only without Gaza.
Does not solve the refugee issue.
Does not solve the Jerusalem issue.
As one Palestinians said about offers of statehood….
“” Well first of all it seems the word “state” needs to be qualified. If we mean a representative governmental institution with sovereignty over its land (obviously based on 67 borders) and the freedom to engage in independent local and foreign policy, fully enfranchised to protect its citizens and enforce its laws (which is practically what all states with no exception have in common), then the answer is never. All “offers” have focused around creating a Vichy-style state but no Palestinian leader offered himself as a Pétain which is Israel’s definition of a Palestinian “Partner in peace.” If you consider Vichy France as a state, then I don’t think there is room for conversation here.”